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And 32, 406 cases - so 25, 118 from England

DOWN from 26, 982 last Saturday and 27, 545 yesterday

EVEN WITH THE BIG SCOTLAND WK TO WK RISE THE UK TOTAL (NO WALES THEN EITHER REMEMBER) IS ONLY UP 348 FROM 32, 058 LAST SATURDAY AS THE ENGLAND FALL BALANCES THE RISES IN SCOTLAND


Really odd that England has so far evaded the rises and is flat or even falling when the other nations are going up, Though N Ireland fell today too.

Can this entirely be down to schools in or out? As clearly the younger ages are driving these cases everywhere.

Wonder if outside classes could be the way to go if kids playing pre back to school in England outside is not forcing up numbers but those in Scotland in classrooms are?
 
Healdplace said:
And 32, 406 cases - so 25, 118 from England

DOWN from 26, 982 last Saturday and 27, 545 yesterday

EVEN WITH THE BIG SCOTLAND WK TO WK RISE THE UK TOTAL (NO WALES THEN EITHER REMEMBER) IS ONLY UP 348 FROM 32, 058 LAST SATURDAY AS THE ENGLAND FALL BALANCES THE RISES IN SCOTLAND


Really odd that England has so far evaded the rises and is flat or even falling when the other nations are going up, Though N Ireland fell today too.

Can this entirely be down to schools in or out? As clearly the younger ages are driving these cases everywhere.

Wonder if outside classes could be the way to go if kids playing pre back to school in England outside is not forcing up numbers but those in Scotland in classrooms are?
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I suppose we'll only get a proper idea how the whole thing is panning out once schools have been back a while. Certainly by the time the clocks change we can compare with last autumns data to predict what sort of winter we might be in for.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
I suppose we'll only get a proper idea how the whole thing is panning out once schools have been back a while. Certainly by the time the clocks change we can compare with last autumns data to predict what sort of winter we might be in for.
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The jabs for 12 and over finally announced will help too. Though not necessarily by much as they minimise hospitalisation but do not stop transmission so much it seems and kids being kids will spread it everywhere they go.

That is the problem. Delta is so infectious in young people. They are mostly fine but if they then get in contact with the more vulnerable - grandparents etc - THOSE might not be. Especially as the weather changes soon and being indoors not out becomes the norm for 4 or 5 months.
 
NW and Greater Manchester Data

As flat as a pancake. Not budging much at all.

Four of the last 5 GM totals are 1284 - 1277 - (1518) - 1317 AND TODAY 1296 (The high was 1518 on Thursday)

North West is much the same :-

3275 - 3337 - (3898 on Thursday) - 3505 - 3444 TODAY

So today day to day GM falls 21 from a NW fall of 61 - so pretty much as expected.

And week to week GM is up 128 from a NW rise of 336 - which again is on the low side of the rise and fairly close to par.
 
Healdplace said:
The jabs for 12 and over finally announced will help too. Though not necessarily by much as they minimise hospitalisation but do not stop transmission so much it seems and kids being kids will spread it everywhere they go.

That is the problem. Delta is so infectious in young people. They are mostly fine but if they then get in contact with the more vulnerable - grandparents etc - THOSE might not be. Especially as the weather changes soon and being indoors not out becomes the norm for 4 or 5 months.
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Exactly how I see it I think. Hospitalisation and deaths will be the figures to watch rather than cases I suppose.
 
GREATER MANCHESTER NUMBERS


MANCHESTER 258 - UP 16 on day & UP 8 week to week

TAMESIDE 149 - UP 2 on day & UP 34 week to week

SALFORD 139 - DOWN 3 on day & UP 24 week to week

STOCKPORT 139 - DOWN 1 on day & DOWN 7 week to week

WIGAN 135 - DOWN 9 on day & UP 20 week to week

TRAFFORD 110 - UP 6 on day & UP 24 week to week

OLDHAM 103 - UP 4 on day & UP 22 week to week

BOLTON 95 - DOWN 21 on day & DOWN 5 week to week

BURY 92 - UP 1 on the day & UP 9 week to week

ROCHDALE 76 - DOWN 16 on day & DOWN 1 week to week


Fairly even across the boroughs with no awful days though Tameside up most wk to wk and fair rises in Salford, Trafford, Oldham and Wigan.

Stockport fell day to day and week to week but by tiny numbers and is really VERY flat like the NW & GM.

Its cases in past 5 days have been 139 - 139 (170) - 140 - 139.

Just 1 case separating 4 daily totals with the jump on Thursday when cases everywhere rose for some reason.

Bolton - though - clearly had the best day down day to day and week to week by a bit more than Stockport.





Manchester up 47 to 14, 845 - leading GM on highest Pop Score by just 5 from Oldham who were up 44 to 14, 840

Trafford up 46 to 11, 611 , whereas Stockport was up 47 to 11, 509

These are the two lowest overall Pop scores in GM with Stockport's lead cut by 1 to 102.



Tameside up 66 to 12, 741 was again the biggest Pop score in today.


Bolton had the lowest rise - just 33 - up to 14, 113.



Happily still no sign of a big increase. But not much sign of a fall either.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Exactly how I see it I think. Hospitalisation and deaths will be the figures to watch rather than cases I suppose.
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They long have been so because of the vaccines - which is why I post all the hospital data in here every evening around 6 pm from England and the regions and then the totals for the UK.

Sadly England only give the data on weekdays. So there will be three days worth to catch up as always on Monday.

But these are quite flat too in England and North West is the smallest contributor of the major England regions from being the most a few weeks ago.

You will find all the Friday data with ups and downs day to day and week to week on pages 3597 & 3598.
 
WALES DATA

ALTHOUGH THE WELSH DASHBOARD CLAIMS TODAY IS TUESDAY 15 JUNE (Maybe it is in Wales?) THE NUMBERS ARE TODAY's. JUST HOW DO YOU MAKE AN ERROR LIKE THAT?

THIS IS ACTUALLY ONE DAY - FRIDAY - SAT & SUN WILL BE OUT TOMORROW COMBINED AS USUAL. OR MAYBE IT WILL BE WEDNESDAY 16 JUNE TOMORROW?

Anyhow....

3 deaths - was 5 last week

2357 cases - was 1626 last week


FOR THE RECORD ON THE ACTUAL TUESDAY 15 JUNE WALES HAD JUST 98 CASES AND ONLY 22 THE TUESDAY BEFORE! WISHFUL THINKING IN THE SENEDD PERHAPS
 
ZOE APP DATA

Predicted cases up 1038 to 56, 040.

Ongoing symptomatic cases up 11, 490 (bigger rise than yesterday's increase) to back over 700K for first time since 7 AUG when they were falling. Now on 703, 644 UP from 692, 154 .
 
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QUITE A BIT OF CHANGE HERE TODAY


NORTHERN IRELAND - still top but FALLS FROM 990 / 2295 TO 974 / 2268
first time over 2000 for anyone in a while

YORKSHIRE - UP enough to take it back into second ahead of the NORTH WEST

FROM TO 802 / 1091 FROM 775 /1060


NORTH WEST NOW THIRD

But again UP just a little FROM 808 / 1064 TO 815 / 1073


South West, North East, London all also in the second watch band with the North West.

These all VERY slowly rising but LONDON has turned flat. And has now fallen significantly down the table
on 666 / 848.

Only ONE area is in the lowest watch zone and below London.

That is EAST ENGLAND on 644 / 835

Only just.


SCOTLAND rising has lost top spot and now exited the lower watch zone and has risen above East, LOndon and South East in the rankings:

SCOTLAND UP TO 655 / 935 FROM 612 / 886

WALES has risen even more and just behind the North West now

On 702 / 1052 - SUDDEN BIG JUMP UP - from 584 / 913
 
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ZOE APP NORTH WEST

GM Boroughs:-


BOLTON DOWN to 28, 265 FROM 28, 773 - this looks utterly crazy data as even though up a tad BL still had the best numbers in GM yesterday - so staying at the worst in the NW looks wrong

BURY UP to 7492 FROM 4962 - as neighbour Bury inches up but one of the lowest in GM. More true but scoring more than Bolton in the real cases.

MANCHESTER DOWN to 8869 FROM 9045 - Manchester still doing fine & pretty flat

OLDHAM DOWN to 6353 FROM 6974 - lowest here in the week and almost the lowest in GM.

ROCHDALE DOWN to 10, 577 FROM 11, 234 - High whilst neighbour OL is low

SALFORD UP A TAD TO 8070 FROM 7775 - fairly stable & low compared to a week or two back.

STOCKPORT UP a lot to 14, 281 FROM 10, 937 - worst numbers here in some weeks and now third highest behind Bolton and Wigan

TAMESIDE DOWN a little again to 6254 FROM 6349 - now best in GM

TRAFFORD another fall DOWN to 6822 FROM 7812 - just behind Tameside and has fallen a lot all week

WIGAN UP to 18, 837 FROM 16, 463 - only Bolton ahead of it now.


The thing to recall about these numbers is they are ongoing symptomatic cases so not meaning necessarily more cases now just in the recent past. It is trends not literal numbers or rises that matter here.

The actual definition of the number is Estimated Active Cases Per Million People.

So for instance Manchester has about 50% of that million population so those numbers with Covid are now (around 4300) whereas Stockport's lower population means it has just over a third of its number above - so in fact a pretty similar number in actual cases - just over 4000. Whereas Tameside the lowest scorer has a population just over one fifth of a million so its ongoing cases are really around 1400







OTHERS:-

Cheshire East still keeping perfect track with Stockport as it tends to do being neighbour boroughs - up to 12, 333 FROM 12 056 - again pacing neighbour though SK is back above it since yesterday.

Liverpool up slightly to 8372 FROM 7152

Sefton (Southport etc) on 15, 606 and neighbour West Lancashire on 15, 124 are also high.

The Blackpool area has fallen out of the high watch zone on just 5375

South Ribble (Preston area) on 21, 171 and Chorley on 17, 170 - just north of Bolton/Wigan, of course. are the only areas challenging the high numbers in GM right now.
 
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SCOTLAND DATA

O deaths - was 0 last week (NOT meaningful as registrations rarely happen here at weekend)

7113 cases - another new one day record - was 3190 last week

THEY DO ADD A NOTE THAT THE NUMBERS CONTAIN A BACKLOG FROM 2 DAYS AGO AS THEY ARE DOING SO MUCH TESTING RIGHT NOW

507 patients - up 13 on day - was 338 last Sunday

52 ventilated icu - up 3 on yesterday - was 34 last Sunday


Needless to say not good numbers and the hospital data especially worrying.
 
Healdplace said:
SCOTLAND DATA

O deaths - was 0 last week (NOT meaningful as registrations rarely happen here at weekend)

7113 cases - another new one day record - was 3190 last week

THEY DO ADD A NOTE THAT THE NUMBERS CONTAIN A BACKLOG FROM 2 DAYS AGO AS THEY ARE DOING SO MUCH TESTING RIGHT NOW

507 patients - up 13 on day - was 338 last Sunday

52 ventilated icu - up 3 on yesterday - was 34 last Sunday


Needless to say not good numbers and the hospital data especially worrying.
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hopefully they can be treated and released quickly
 
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