Coronavirus (2021) thread

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SilverFox2 said:
Thanks for reply BA.
So are we beyond the need or capability to protect the vulnerable?

Is it now just a combo of vaccination or catching covid that is being relied on?
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The Tory government opened up in mid July and Whitty and Valance were on board with this simply because they know what could happen later on in the year if we didn't open up
 
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The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Yet more evidence on why vaccination passports are pointless if evidence of previous infection is also not taken into account.

I am just posting the conclusion of the systematic review of the evidence but the link to the full document is at the bottom of the text.

Conclusions:
There is consistent epidemiologic evidence that prior SARS-CoV-2 infection provides substantial immunity to repeat SARS-CoV-2 infection. Prior SARS-CoV-2 infections provide similar protection when compared to vaccination for SARS-CoV-2. Longer follow-up studies are needed to determine how long protection lasts for natural immunity, especially among higher risk groups such as those with chronic medical conditions and those that are immunocompromised. More research is needed to investigate whether disease severity changes the risk of repeat infection. Finally, more research is needed to determine how much protection persists against emerging variants, like the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.27.21262741v1.full-text
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Infection of the vaccinated - even though vaccination reduces symptom severity - is sadly a gift to the anti-vax lobby.
 
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ayrshire_blue said:
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This makes some sense and, perhaps, the ‘flu’ will kill off Covid in the end. It’s to do with viral competition and it’s worth looking up the ‘vanishing trick‘ of influenza and how old viruses are initially crowded out by new ones. It always seemed far more likely that flu disappeared as a construct of biology we don’t fully understand than as some happy by-product of lockdown type measures (which supposedly killed off flu but didn’t touch Covid).
 
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My son and wife both tested positive (son last Wednesday, wife today) I’ve had negative PCR and the rules say I’m fine to mingle with anyone and everyone because I’m double jabbed and not symptomatic Seems mad.
 
johnnytapia said:
My son and wife both tested positive (son last Wednesday, wife today) I’ve had negative PCR and the rules say I’m fine to mingle with anyone and everyone because I’m double jabbed and not symptomatic Seems mad.
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Yep, one of my colleagues last week was going home to a household riddled with covid every night but was fine to come in as normal for the reasons you say.
 
johnnytapia said:
My son and wife both tested positive (son last Wednesday, wife today) I’ve had negative PCR and the rules say I’m fine to mingle with anyone and everyone because I’m double jabbed and not symptomatic Seems mad.
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I am a big supporter of vaccination and am double jabbed but you are correct. Being double jabbed doesn't stop you getting Covid and infecting other people. The research has shown that being fully vaccinated prevents around 50 per cent of people getting Covid and reduces the chance of being hospitalised by 95 per cent. That's great and shows it is well worth getting vaccinated but the concept of a passport is clearly flawed if you can still pass on the virus. This policy will just give ammunition to the anti-vaxxers and make people even more polarised than they are now.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
I am a big supporter of vaccination and am double jabbed but you are correct. Being double jabbed doesn't stop you getting Covid and infecting other people. The research has shown that being fully vaccinated prevents around 50 per cent of people getting Covid and reduces the chance of being hospitalised by 95 per cent. That's great and shows it is well worth getting vaccinated but the concept of a passport is clearly flawed if you can still pass on the virus. This policy will just give ammunition to the anti-vaxxers and make people even more polarised than they are now.
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Anti vaxxers are barking mad, you can’t reason with an idiot.
 
Double jabbed father in law tested positive this Morning which is a worry as he has a heart problem, I'm about 8 weeks in with suffering from a chronic cough and coughing green mucus up, this is the 3rd time since I had Covid the first time back in May of last year and again in February this year I've ended up with a chest issue that just will not clear, courses of antibiotics don't touch it, I just have to stand in the shower for half an hour everyday to get rid of some of the mucus, smell still hasn't come back from the first time round either, I genuinely wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy. I was relatively fit and healthy before this but it's definitely done something drastic to my chest.
 
Barcon said:
I only actually click on this thread when I see that you have posted. Relaying these stories to the wife makes my day.
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I can’t believe people actually react this way to somebody dying. What the fuck has happened to this world. He has a family for fuck sake, yes he made a huge mistake but that doesn’t mean we should be fucking celebrating the fact he died saying it makes your day etc.

There is now three children without a dad and despite what he wrongly believed I still feel compassion for his family.

Posts like yours truly sicken me.
 
johnnytapia said:
My son and wife both tested positive (son last Wednesday, wife today) I’ve had negative PCR and the rules say I’m fine to mingle with anyone and everyone because I’m double jabbed and not symptomatic Seems mad.
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Not true.
You should be having LFD tests while showing no symptoms and you are "pinged", contact traced or living with infected people.

NHSGGC : I have had both shots of the vaccine and the booster, do I still need to be tested?

www.nhsggc.org.uk www.nhsggc.org.uk
 
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True_Blue69 said:
Totally agree, but there are also the extremes on the other side who would quite happily vaccinate a pregnant hamster if they read it might help.
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Ahh but you see pregnant hamsters are among the biggest anti vaxxers around
 
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