Coronavirus (2021) thread

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ZOE APP DATA

TODAYS DATA

REGIONS:-




North West FALLS again by a little more than of late FROM 719 / 941 TO 690 / 907

NW FALLS into FIFTH of the 12 regions.


Behind Scotland (still TOP) and Wales (second) - with Scotland out of the HIGHEST WATCH ZONE

North East rises into third (UP big on 693 / 1084).

Yorkshire and Humber are in fourth.

East Midlands in 6th just below NW FALL TO 642 /883 FROM 651 / 894).

South West (which has been plummeting day by day in the real cases all week - as the regional data each evening on here shows- is now the LOWEST England region ahead of London DOWN on 481 / 633 FROM 495 / 649 V London on 509 / 657 FLAT FROM 508 / 657

Alongside West Midlands (DOWN to 510 / 730 FROM 534 / 761), South East (DOWN to 552 / 671 FROM 569 / 690) and East (DOWN to 514 / 673 FROM 522 / 682).


Scotland TOP is DOWN for the third day running after a while going up - now on 849 / 1124 FROM 896 / 1179


WALES in second is DOWN on 777 / 1098 FROM 796 / 1122


Yorkshire now third ahead of North West is DOWN on 716 / 973 FROM 750 / 1011



N Ireland is back as the sole occupant of the LOWEST watch zone and so best in UK

DOWN slightly on 208 / 852 FROM 210 / 855
 
somapop said:
With regard to the passports, how will international travel fare?
Looks like domestically these now won't be introduced (but who knows atm) but I'm guessing you'll need some kind of proof to fly out to a lot of places?
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A lot of countries remain closed so a lot does remain to be seen.

At present though, having proof you're fully vaxxed means some countries will forgo any testing requirements to get in, or forgo any isolation/quarantine that is otherwise applicable.

Long term, I think travel for anyone unjabbed (and not medically exempt) is going to be difficult. As a minimum there will be more hurdles for those people, but some countries might outright refuse to permit them entry or stipulate that if someone arrives unjabbed they have to do 2 weeks in isolation (essentially banning them without banning them)

If that happens, I will be sure to dig out my tiny violin for these anti-vax wankers.
 
ZOE APP DATA


TODAY


GREATER MANCHESTER:-


Bury - very surprisingly - stays top on Zoe making it the highest in GM . But DOWN on 20, 904 FROM 21, 959

Tameside - unsurprisingly - stays in second place and is rising today - UP on 16, 073 FROM 14, 733

Salford edges UP into third on 12, 753 FROM 11, 265

Stockport just below in fourth despite inching up slightly UP on 12, 595 FROM 12, 423

Manchester is up to fifth though DOWN on 11, 759 FROM 12, 131


THERE ARE NOW FIVE BOROUGHS IN THE LOWER SUB 10K WATCH ZONE


Trafford is in sixth and still falling fast as real data confirms - DOWN on 9542 FROM 12, 202

Oldham is seventh region but DOWN on 9167 FROM 9266

Wigan in eighth has improved a lot and again DOWN on 7931 FROM 8639

Bolton in ninth DOWN on 5051 FROM 5440


BUT BEST IN GM FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A WHILE IS NOW:-

Rochdale in tenth and has improved even more DOWN on 4709 FROM 5616













REST OF NORTH WEST


West Lancashire - the region between Bootle, Formby and Southport in west and Wigan is UP on10, 719


Liverpool UP on 10, 565 FROM 9743

AND St Helens WAY DOWN on 6774 FROM over 20 K 3 days ago.

also

Though Sefton (the coastal part of Merseyside and Lancashire) is DOWN on 8531 FROM 10, 720
the Blackpool coast area and the Fylde is now the new problem area of the North West.

In the sun and with the illuminations opening ON 14, 325 (slightly down).

ALSO VERY NOTABLE THAT SUNSHINE ARRIVES AND BOTH NORTH WALES AND THE LAKE DISTRICT HAVE SHOT UP IN NUMBERS IN THE PAST FEW DAYS


Chorley is UP again too on 13, 554 FROM 10, 046




Cheshire East - is still low but has gone UP again tracking Stockport on 9471 FROM 8156.

But behind Stockport still and much better than Chester and Cheshire West - now the worst part of the NW outside of BURY - though a bit DOWN on 17, 437 FROM 18, 490
 
somapop said:
With regard to the passports, how will international travel fare?
Looks like domestically these now won't be introduced (but who knows atm) but I'm guessing you'll need some kind of proof to fly out to a lot of places?
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I suspect those that have been double vaccinated will be able to travel without tests and quarantine. Non-vaccinated people will have to test and quarantine.

That's the way it's being done here and quite a few other EU countries.
 
SCOTLAND DATA

0 deaths - was 0 last week - Sunday reporting means it is almost always 0

5912 cases - was 6368 last week - slight fall

11.5% positivity - was 14.2% last week - a good fall here

1019 patients - up 34 in day - was 719 last week - still rising by nearly 50% over week

SAD TO SEE THIS MILESTONE PASSED

88 ventilated icu - was 83 yesterday & 61 last week

HINTS OF SLOWING AS ZOE IS SEEING HERE BUT VERY SLOWLY IF SO
 
NORTHERN IRELAND DATA

6 deaths - was 7 last week

1031 cases - was 1232 last week

ALL WE GET AT WEEKENDS BUT THE VERY SLOW FALL IN NORTHERN IRELAND SEEMS TO BE CONTINUING

It was 1225 & 1485 ON THE TWO PREVIOUS SUNDAYS

ZOE SEEMS TO SUPPORT IT AS REAL HAVING N IRELAND THE LOWEST OF ALL THE UK NATIONS OR REGIONS
 
So the deaths from the three nations today are:- 14

Last week at this stage it was 10.

THAT BECAME 68 ON ALL SETTINGS LATER WHEN ENGLAND ADDED 58 (26 IN HOSPITAL AND 32 OUTSIDE)
 
And the three nation cases today total:- 9260

Last week it was 9989 at this stage

England later added 27, 022 to total 37, 011

Yesterday England added 23, 825
 
Zoe seems to be changing how they calculate/display every few weeks now. Makes it really difficult to accurately assess any trends. This graph is clearly completely different from the one I put up yesterday.

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They do change it a lot and it is far from perfect but in terms of how it reflects the GM data day to day it is undoubtedly better than it was a few weeks ago before the last change.

I do not think it is worth regarding it as more than a guide to trends over time which it gets right better than day to day.

But it has blind spots that it has never got right - partly I think as it involves areas with low access to technology or communities less likely to use it.

Unfortunately this often coincides with places that generate high cases.

It has not even posted data for much of East Lancashire that all Summer has been the highest in the NW.

Largely as this has a high elderly and ethnic population I imagine. They used to do the same with Tameside in GM as its numbers were always way off because it had too few users they said. But they rejigged it and it has been a bit better since they did whatever they did.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Did anyone else see the anti vaxx idiots with the placards on the way to the King Power from Junction 21 yesterday?

Bunch of fucking losers.
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No but there was one on the roundabout near here when I was coming back from the gym. I took the opportunity to fulfil my civic duty and told each and every one of them they were idiots, morons, irresponsible etc. My wife always tells me you lose the moral high ground when you start swearing in public arguments. It was only when I got towards the end of the line and they started to give abuse back that I cracked and called them “fucking wankers”.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
No but there was one on the roundabout near here when I was coming back from the gym. I took the opportunity to fulfil my civic duty and told each and every one of them they were idiots, morons, irresponsible etc. My wife always tells me you lose the moral high ground when you start swearing in public arguments. It was only when I got towards the end of the line and they started to give abuse back that I cracked and called them “fucking wankers”.
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The arrogance of these fools is truly astonishing.

They think they know more about the vaccine than virtually the entire medical profession. It’s actually unbelievable how off the scale preposterous it is, that a sales rep from Wigston thinks they know more than virtually every doctor on the planet about the safety and efficacy of this vaccine.

Dangerous pricks.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
No but there was one on the roundabout near here when I was coming back from the gym. I took the opportunity to fulfil my civic duty and told each and every one of them they were idiots, morons, irresponsible etc. My wife always tells me you lose the moral high ground when you start swearing in public arguments. It was only when I got towards the end of the line and they started to give abuse back that I cracked and called them “fucking wankers”.
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:-) The way that’s phrased makes me think Mrs DD has the patience of a saint.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
The arrogance of these fools is truly astonishing.

They think they know more about the vaccine than virtually the entire medical profession. It’s actually unbelievable how off the scale preposterous it is, that a sales rep from Wigston thinks they know more than virtually every doctor on the planet about the safety and efficacy of this vaccine.

Dangerous pricks.
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It’s the fact that they are so stupid and thick that they incapable of taking one look around them and realising that everybody else with them is stupid and thick.

The internet has enabled idiots to flock together and form groups. It certainly is dangerous.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
It’s the fact that they are so stupid and thick that they incapable of taking one look around them and realising that everybody else with them is stupid and thick.

The internet has enabled idiots to flock together and form groups. It certainly is dangerous.
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The truly hilarious thing is they think the likes of you and me, you know, people who are willing to accept the professional opinion of highly qualified and skilled medics, are the actual mugs.
 
56 all settings deaths - 42 in England - v 68 last week & 58 England last week

29, 173 cases v 37, 011 last week

19, 913 in England v 27, 022 last Sunday

First time under 20,000 in England since 3 August

Surprisingly good still
 
Didsbury Dave said:
It’s the fact that they are so stupid and thick that they incapable of taking one look around them and realising that everybody else with them is stupid and thick.

The internet has enabled idiots to flock together and form groups. It certainly is dangerous.
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a study recently done in America shows that vaccine hesitancy is higher in the more educated and the highest group of hesitancy is amongst those with PHDs

so not sure about your stupid and thick comment tbf
 
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