Coronavirus (2021) thread

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roubaixtuesday said:
I don't think there are clear answers to these questions at the moment. There are so many confounding factors.

But I think it is clear that protection from symptomatic infection wanes faster and/or is more prone to new variants than protection from severe disease.
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Thanks, that was my impression but was struggling to find any data to support that opinion.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
Ah, so you're talking total death rate, not current.

Given that our current death rate is above most of Europe, it's hard to square that with your claim that we're falling on that table, I think?

But again, what's your point here? You're claiming we've done well because we've a lower death toll than Bulgaria? Or...?
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I am not getting into it with you. You are another one. I made my point and it’s obvious.
 
Unbelievable this thread. Cases go down and people conclude it’s because kids are hiding positive tests. You couldn’t make this shit up. Just accept that for now all signs are that providing there are no new deadly variants, this whole shit show is practically over. Enjoy life and stop trying to look for reasons to think the pandemic is still raging.
 
ENGLAND HOSPITAL DATA


ADMISSIONS - THESE ARE FROM THURSDAY, FRIDAY & SATURDAY REMEMBER (48 hours old)



LAST SAT // THIS THURSDAY/FRIDAY/SATURDAY

752 // 790 // 670 // 647

So DOWN week to week by 105 SAT TO SAT.


By regions (LAST SATURDAY V THIS THURSDAY/FRIDAY/SATURDAY) :-


LONDON 88 V 114 / 101 / 109 - UP here a bit week to week

MIDLANDS 148 V 147 / 132 / 123 - Better here day by day

NE & YORKSHIRE 192 V 150 / 142 / 148 - Yorkshire also well down.



AND

NORTH WEST 99 V 147 / 105 / 94


So NW admitted one of the least of the four big regions again and down week to week.

BUT that 94 is on Saturday and what happened today impacts that a lot.

We will not get the NW admissions for today until Wednesday BUT patients increased today by the highest number in the NW and it rose the most in one single day today as NW has in some time UP 86. 10% in one day.

Monday is always a big admissions day so we need to see where this goes as the week continues. But NW adding the most easily today is slightly concerning.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
Strange that you can't articulate it if it's so obvious.
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nothing strange at all - as I said you are one of them who wants us to perform worst than Europe and have been for months so I am waisting no time on you. Is that clear enough for you?
 
roubaixtuesday said:
I think everyone is.



1000 people a week are still dying in the UK and most of the world is unvaccinated. Pretending this isn't happening makes it less likely to go away, not more.
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If only 1000 people a week were dying in the UK, times that by 10 and you might be getting close. Forgot that the other 9000 don’t count anymore.
 
worsleyweb said:
nothing strange at all - as I said you are one of them who wants us to perform worst than Europe and have been for months so I am waisting no time on you. Is that clear enough for you?
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Ah, well you're quite wrong.

I'd like us to emulate Finland ideally, but failing that Germany would do nicely.

Is that clear enough for you?
 
True_Blue69 said:
Unbelievable this thread. Cases go down and people conclude it’s because kids are hiding positive tests. You couldn’t make this shit up. Just accept that for now all signs are that providing there are no new deadly variants, this whole shit show is practically over. Enjoy life and stop trying to look for reasons to think the pandemic is still raging.
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My Nan is in ICU at St Thomas’s with blood clots - we’ve been told they are transferring her to another ward due to incoming Covid patients - so piss off telling everyone this is all over.
 
ENGLAND HOSPITAL DATA



PATIENTS

THIS DATA IS FOR FRIDAY / SATURDAY / SUNDAY / TODAY

6400 / 6206 / 6161 / 6424


UP 24 FRI TO TODAY



Last week the equivalent numbers were

6195 / 6043 / 6167 / 6375

UP 180 FRI TO MON LAST WEEK


WEEKLY RISE MON TO MON 6375 - 6424

A RISE OF 49



LAST WEEK WEEKLY RISE WAS 6002 - 6375 - RISE OF 373

The numbers are not escalating that is for sure.





BY REGIONS

Last Monday - V Sat / Sun / Today - Up/down over week


LONDON 1177 - UP 34 V 1209 / 1214 / 1253 (UP 44 OVER WEEKEND) - UP 76 WK TO WK

MIDLANDS 1243 - UP 32 V 1271 / 1296 / 1304 (UP 33 OVER WEEKEND) - UP 61 WK TO WK

NE & YORKSHIRE 1213 UP 50 V 1186 / 1174 / 1221 (UP 35 OVER WEEKEND) UP 8 WK TO WK


AND


NORTH WEST 966 - UP 4 V 902 / 887 / 973 (UP 71 OVER WEEKEND) - UP 7 WK TO WK


YORKSHIRE AND THE NORTH WEST JUST EDGING UP A BIT BUT NOT AS BADLY AS THE OTHER REGIONS.

MONDAY ALWAYS A BIG RISE SO WE NEED TO SEE WHERE WE GO OVER NEXT FEW DAYS, BIG RISE IN NW TODAY BUT WEEK TO WEEK LITTLE CHANGE,

WILL NW FINALLY TOP 1000? IT HAS STAYED IN THE 800/900s NOW FOR WEEKS?



The other smaller regions week to week Monday to today

East down from 551 to 550 today (UP 60 TODAY) - Big rise here today too but down week to week

South East down from 704 to 608 today (UP 7 TODAY) - Big weekly fall here

And South West down from 521 to 515 today (UP 24 TODAY)
 
ENGLAND HOSPITAL DATA



VENTILATORS


THIS DATA IS FOR FRIDAY / SATURDAY / SUNDAY / TODAY



898 / 865 / 869 / 886


Down 12 over the weekend


Last week the same days were:

889 / 880 / 878 / 909

So a Monday rise of 31 (v 127 today) and it ROSE over that weekend by 20 V fall of 12 this week.


DOWN week to week by 23 From 909 to 886

PREVIOUS WEEK UP 50 week to week 859 - 909





By regions (TODAY V LAST WEEK) :-


LONDON 228 (UP 4 TODAY V 237 - DOWN 9 in week

MIDLANDS 175 (DOWN 3 TODAY) V 168 - UP 7 in week

NE & YORKSHIRE 157 (UP 9 TODAY) V 147 - UP 10 in week



AND

NORTH WEST 122 (DOWN 3 TODAY) V 116 - UP 6 in week




The other regions LAST WEEK V TODAY

East DOWN 3 FROM 87 to 84

South East DOWN 39 FROM 97 to 58 - HUGE fall here

And South West DOWN 5 FROM 67 to 62


North West still lowest of the 4 regions but has been flattish in the 110/120s now for several weeks.
 
UK PATIENTS AS OF TODAY:



ENGLAND 6424 SCOTLAND 1048 NORTHERN IRELAND 401 WALES 449

UK TOTAL 8322

(UP 56 OVER WEEKEND) (ROSE 312 LAST WEEKEND)





VENTILATED UK AS OF TODAY


ENGLAND 886 SCOTLAND 90 NORTHERN IRELAND 32 WALES 40

UK TOTAL 1048


(DOWN 16 OVER WEEKEND) (ROSE BY 7 LAST WEEEND)
 
ENGLAND REGIONS


EAST UP BY 278 - TO 2192 V 2841 - DOWN 649 IN WEEK

LONDON UP BY 434 - TO 2673 V 2853 - DOWN 180 IN WEEK

SOUTH EAST UP BY 15 TO 2714 V 3796 - DOWN 1082 IN WEEK - ANOTHER BIG WEEKLY FALL AND STILL WELL BEHIND THE NORTH WEST

SOUTH WEST FALLS BY 214 TO 1359 V 2608 - DOWN 1249 IN WEEK - ONCE AGAIN HUGE DROP


THE NUMBERS IN THE SOUTH ARE VERY SURPRISINGLY BIG FALLS AND MOSTLY WHY ENGLAND HAS BEEN FALLING


EAST MIDLANDS FALLS BY 128 TO 1946 V 2977 - DOWN 1031 IN WEEK

WEST MIDLANDS UP BY 236 - TO 2472 V 2902 - DOWN 430 IN WEEK

NORTH EAST FALLS BY 47 TO 1073 V 1628 - DOWN 555 IN WEEK

YORKSHIRE UP BY 251 TO 2602 V 3614 - DOWN 1012 IN WEEK


AND


NORTH WEST UP BY 376 TO 3361 V 3459 - DOWN 98 IN WEEK

NORTH WEST STILL HIGHEST REGION AND NOT DOING ANYWHERE NEAR AS WELL AS MANY OTHER REGIONS IN TERNMS OF NUMBERS AND WEEK TO WEEK FALLS


By far the biggest falls are happening in the south but numbers are widely down.




GM AS A PERCENTAGE OF NORTH WEST CASES

TODAY 30.1% DOWN FROM 35.4% YESTERDAY - GM DID WELL V NW TODAY LOWEST % THAT I CAN RECALL

DOWN EVEN MORE FROM 36.2% LAST WEEK

GM IS DOING VERY WELL VERSUS THE NORTH WEST REGION
 
GREATER MANCHESTER SCOREBOARD

TOTAL CASES 1011 - DOWN 47 FROM YESTERDAY.

NORTH WEST ROSE BY 376. SO EVEN A SMALL GM FALL IS WAY OVER EXPECTATION MEANING A VERY GOOD DAY.

VERSUS LAST WEEK GM WAS THEN 1254 - SO DOWN 243.

NORTH WEST FELL BY JUST 98 WEEK TO WEEK.

SO GM FALLING BY 3 TIMES THAT IS AGAIN WELL OVER EXPECTATIONS.

VERY GOOD DAY FOR GREATER MANCHESTER


MANCHESTER 172 - UP 7 on day & DOWN 29 wk to wk

Manchester Pop Score up 31 POP SCORE 15, 489

STOCKPORT 152 - UP 12 on day & UP 16 wk to wk. Pop Score up 52 today. Easily highest in GM today again. POP SCORE 12, 363 and lost another 14 in one go of its now all but vanished lead over Trafford who again had a far better day

WIGAN 118 - DOWN 16 on day & DOWN 46 wk to wk. Pop score up 36 today - POP SCORE 14, 505

TAMESIDE 105 - UP 16 on day & DOWN 29 wk to wk - Another OK day here. Pop Score up 46 - not close to highest rise in GM as it was regularly up to a few days ago. POP SCORE 13, 703

BOLTON 102- LEVEL on day & DOWN 3 wk to wk - Bolton Pop Score up 36. POP SCORE 14, 718

TRAFFORD 90 - UP 19 on day & DOWN 21 Wk to wk - Pop Score up by 38 points today. 14 LESS than Stockport. So the gap to SKs lowest GM Pop Score lead is now just to just 9 and Trafford may well take over the lead for lowest overall Pop score tomorrow. POP SCORE OF 12, 372.

SALFORD 83 - DOWN 1 on day & DOWN 52 wk to wk. Pop Score up 32. POP SCORE 15, 190

OLDHAM 79 - DOWN 18 on day & DOWN 37 Wk to Wk. Pop Score up 34 and now 49 ahead of Manchester for highest overall GM pop score as the City is doing even better than Oldham when POPulation is factored into the case numbers. POP SCORE 15, 538

BURY 62 - DOWN !9 on day & UP 3 wk to wk Pop score here up 32. POP SCORE 14, 365

ROCHDALE 48 - DOWN 47 on day & DOWN 46 wk to wk - Pop Score up 21 - lowest score and daily rise in GM for weeks. POP SCORE 14, 974
 
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