Coronavirus (2022) thread

It's been on the news over here quite a bit so can't see it being a load of bollocks.
Fair enough but the BBC online story does not have any verification from any medical source and no mention of a post mortem report. I am not a doctor but it sounds like a very sudden death with no Covid symptoms so how do they know it was Covid?
 
Fair enough but the BBC online story does not have any verification from any medical source and no mention of a post mortem report. I am not a doctor but it sounds like a very sudden death with no Covid symptoms so how do they know it was Covid?
They were interviewing a doctor on TV about it who confirmed that she had Covid (as did her family). I didn't pay much attention to the rest though as I was busy at the time. I suspect there will be a PM to confirm but she was apparently otherwise healthy so it looks like Covid was a factor.
 
A bit of discussion on the thread today as to how we've done as a country, some focus on 2021 vs 2022. Perhaps some facts and figures might help - here without any commentary on what the causes of the differences are, or might be.

Vaccination is much talked of, restrictions too, and deaths are probably the most objective way to look at disease toll (as cases are testing dependent, and hospitalisation definitions vary rather widely). So here the facts on those, for the biggest Western European countries, plus Denmark, just because most people think Denmark have done a very good job by European standards.

Disease toll - Deaths:
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2020 we were pretty much tied with Spain and Italy for worst. France did a bit better, Germany and Denmark a lot better

2021 Italy were a bit worse than us, all the others a bit better, except Denmark a lot better

Vaccination - fully vaxxed as a % of population:
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We started the fastest, but ended up the least vaccinated of all these countries. Spain and Denmark are top Related, we're currently ahead on boosters except for Denmark

Restrictions

A bit harder to define, but ourworldindata does a "stringency index". It looks a bit like a plate of spaghetti unfortunately. A higher number is more restrictions.

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We're currently in the middle, but a long way below Germany. Most of 2020 we were near the top, most of the second half of 2021, near the bottom. Our second lockdown early '21 stands out as rather severe, perhaps.

Comparisons to other continents look quite different.
Nice to see you excluded Central and Eastern Europe from your graphs.
We are doing better than Italy and the above missing countries, but Italy got hammered early doors and we didn't take note early enough to lock down as a result of following a crap pandemic plan.
 
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Nice to see you excluded Central and Eastern Europe from your graphs

As I said, I specifically picked the largest Western European countries. Those most similar to us overall.

If you think we should be in the same league as Bulgaria, be my guest, post the comparisons.

If I wanted to make us look good, I'd choose Peru. To make us look bad, Japan. Or within Europe, Romania/Finland.

Without controversy, I think it's fair to say when looking at those objective measures, against similar countries, that there is no cause for triumphalism.
 
For a Yank planning/hoping on coming to the UK in early April -- any sense whether the requirements to test within 48 hours after arrival will be scrapped?

I have to say that's the biggest worry I have -- negative before I go, catch it in transit, and am forced to stay in a room for 8 days of a 10 day trip.

I'm vaxxed and boosted if that makes any difference which I doubt.

It's about to be scrapped, due to be announced next week and implemented from February.
I assume this will be for all fully vaccinated arrivals and not just nationals returning home from abroad, but no confirmation either way just yet.

Even if there remains a 48 hour testing requirement for foreign arrivals, no-one gives a fuck.
 
Not sure the government are overly arsed anymore, I tested positive this morning and am off work rest of the week, and had to cancel going to southampton, but should be in monday with this 5 day rule.

Would expect even positive tests will have no isolation soon, and tough tits if you are unvacinated
 
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Not sure the government are overly arsed anymore, I tested posotove this morning and am off work rest of the week, and had to cancel going to southampton, but should be in monday with this 5 day rule.

Would expect even positive tests will have no isolation soon, and tough tits if you are unvacinated
It’ll be a case of if you are “ill” then stay at home but otherwise crack on, and rightly so.

I‘d have been embarrassed in any normal world to take the week off before Xmas that I did for a sniffle, I was right as rain.
 
It’ll be a case of if you are “ill” then stay at home but otherwise crack on, and rightly so.

I‘d have been embarrassed in any normal world to take the week off before Xmas that I did for a sniffle, I was right as rain.

I never take time off when I have a sniffle either, but rules is rules atm especially as I work in education, not got any of the symptoms, just joint and back ache.
Test was one of the weekly ones I take.
 
"Sajid Javid’s axing of all Covid restrictions draws warnings from NHS | Coronavirus | The Guardian" https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2...ll-covid-restrictions-draws-warnings-from-nhs

Let it go. Let it gooo...
Hardly any restrictions left anyway. Just think keeping masks on public transport makes a bit of sense but if that goes with the rest, so be it.

I found it funny who the Government were targeting to increase its popularity with operations “red meat” and “big dog”. Maybe I haven’t got the names quite right lol.
 

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