Coronavirus (2022) thread

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Marvin said:
I don't think you should if you are still testing positive. That line at T is a virus antibody reaction that produces a coloured response. You still have virus in your airways and therefore you are infectious.

Hopefully you will be well by Monday.
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Wrong.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
That you keep on repeating this plain falsehood tells us everything about you, and nothing about SAGE.
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I've read the minutes. They made huge assumptions even though they knew the provisional data coming from SA was good.
It says everything about you that you aren't prepared to accept this FACT.
 
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BlueAnorak said:
I've read the minutes. They made huge assumptions even though they knew the provisional data coming from SA was good.
It says everyone about you that you aren't prepared to accept this FACT.
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Putting something false in full caps doesn't make it true.

Repeating something false doesn't make it true.

SA data was never ignored.
 
www.sciencedirect.com

Evidence for a mouse origin of the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant

The rapid accumulation of mutations in the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant that enabled its outbreak raises questions as to whether its proximal origin occ…
www.sciencedirect.com www.sciencedirect.com

Id read something of this and Dr Campbell has done a video too.

A paper suggesting that Omicron was from Mice. Covid jumped to mice early on, then mouse to mouse transmission where the mutations occured against the mice immune system then jumped back to humans.

Pure fluke that these mutations against the mice immune system actually changed the virus to attack human bruncus and not Lung.
 
SWP's back said:
I’ve been saying it for a month bud. The fact exposure to omicron also gives immunity to delta and alpha is fantastic
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Anecdotal info is the worst but I know so many people who have had Covid recently it’s ridiculous. I know more who have over those who haven’t.

I cannot see how every single person that leaves their house won’t get this at some point in the near future.
 
Octavian said:
Anecdotal info is the worst but I know so many people who have had Covid recently it’s ridiculous. I know more who have over those who haven’t.

I cannot see how every single person that leaves their house won’t get this at some point in the near future.
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indeed and likely a good thing, but I think right now, the NHS could do without every single person getting it at the same time
 
Octavian said:
Anecdotal info is the worst but I know so many people who have had Covid recently it’s ridiculous. I know more who have over those who haven’t.

I cannot see how every single person that leaves their house won’t get this at some point in the near future.
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Same here and the ones that haven't in the last month have mostly had last year. In the week before and over Xmas almost all my mates got it and then most of family over Xmas itself.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
indeed and likely a good thing, but I think right now, the NHS could do without every single person getting it at the same time
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Absolutely true.

A lockdown would be too far imo as we won’t see anywhere near the deaths or severe patients as this time last year, however if we’re not careful certain trusts will get over capacity.

Mask wearing, not purposely standing close to others if it can be avoided and getting your jabs is what is going to help keep us the right side of an NHS collapse, whilst the population becomes immune and the pandemic fingers crossed ends.
 
Octavian said:
Anecdotal info is the worst but I know so many people who have had Covid recently it’s ridiculous. I know more who have over those who haven’t.

I cannot see how every single person that leaves their house won’t get this at some point in the near future.
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A guy my son works with had it before Christmas, then six days after his isolation period, caught it again.

I've not had it, and neither has my wife or our other son or his wife. Just one son, who is a teacher.
 
Octavian said:
Anecdotal info is the worst but I know so many people who have had Covid recently it’s ridiculous. I know more who have over those who haven’t.

I cannot see how every single person that leaves their house won’t get this at some point in the near future.
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Same. Never known so many to have it. It's literally half of the people I know over the past month. With the other variants there was usually one person every month or two. Right now it's just insane. Thankfully they're all absolutely fine with just mild symptoms, so ya know... that's a relief.
 
paulchapo said:
Surely there has to be a time when we stop all the testing and isolation of those who test positive and just get on with life? Here's just one example of how absurd it can be.

My friends were here on holiday in Tenerife. They brought their own test kits with them and before they went to the doctors to get tested used them. All were negative. At the doctor's the husband and daughter were negative but the wife tested positive. Her husband, thinking it was a mistake, paid for another test but it was positive as well. They had to fly home and she stayed for another week. No symptoms, she is fine. She flies home today. She was going to get another test but was told she doesn't need one now as the rules have changed. So if they had changed last week she would have got on the plane positive with another 200 people. Society can't function like this it's crazy.
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Sounds like she got another week's holiday with Carlos the waiter.
 
SWP's back said:
SAGE still used a 3% CFR when modelling omicron.
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And highlighted that severity was unknown, being impossible to determine given the lack of delta to compare to, the uncertainty over age and immune history, and the rapidly growing epidemic.

How is this ignoring SA?
 
The latest primary diagnosis supplement has been released by NHS England.

It shows a total of 13,045 people with Covid in English hospitals on 4 Jan, a weekly increase of 4,724 since the data was last released on 28 December.

Comparatively, the number of patients primarily being treated for Covid on 4 Jan was 8,200, with a weekly increase of 2,622 since 28 December.

This means that 45% of the increase in total Covid patients in hospital has been incidental.

www.england.nhs.uk

Statistics » COVID-19 Hospital Activity

Statistics » COVID-19 Hospital Activity
www.england.nhs.uk www.england.nhs.uk
 
grunge said:
www.sciencedirect.com

Evidence for a mouse origin of the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant

The rapid accumulation of mutations in the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant that enabled its outbreak raises questions as to whether its proximal origin occ…
www.sciencedirect.com www.sciencedirect.com

Id read something of this and Dr Campbell has done a video too.

A paper suggesting that Omicron was from Mice. Covid jumped to mice early on, then mouse to mouse transmission where the mutations occured against the mice immune system then jumped back to humans.

Pure fluke that these mutations against the mice immune system actually changed the virus to attack human bruncus and not Lung.
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This could be something controversial and I'm mentioning it purely for discussion but what's stopping us from genetically engineering a variant that is less severe but transmissible enough to replace Omicron? The Wuhan lab where COVID may of originated from was performing research into this kind of thing and specifically with Coronaviruses.

It's extremely dangerous of course and would never happen but interesting nevertheless.
 
Also interesting is the ONS Covid survey estimate that suggested there were 3.3m people in England with Covid on 31 December.

At this stage there were just 6,786 people in English hospitals with Covid.

It isn't a perfect comparison so don't over interpret this but that gives a ballpark hospitalisation rate of 0.2%.
 
My brother has had it again, thats twice, greedy **** that he is, as has his partner. My youngest brother has it now too, as has my son, all 3 of my lads have had it too. So far, we have avoided it in the Magicpole Mansion. Me missing it has probably been achieved as I have locked myself in a cupboard for 16 months. I think my partner putting a lock on it, preventing me coming out, even if I wanted to, shows how much she loves and values me. I feel blessed. Cramped, but blessed.
 
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