Coronavirus: Football Discussion Thread

Radcliffe 1309 said:
Surely a fans petition can be started (if one hasn't already) ....this asap for the sake of lives for gods God's sake !
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This is a respiratory illness that spreads through airborne droplets. The settings that are particularly 'dangerous' are those that are indoor unventilated settings such as kitchens, some call centres, pubs, clubs, gyms where people are speaking all the time or exhaling forcefully from deep in the lungs and the droplets hand around a closed environment. Time in such a setting is important. You don't get infected by one virus particle. It needs thousands.

Contact tracing shows that 0.03% on infections have occurred in outdoor settings. SAGE has decided that outdoor sports can be played from June 1st, and some European governments agree. It might well turn out that over the course of May and June, that football finds that many of its players, from whatever setting, are getting ill and it's impractical. I feel that providing players follow social distancing as a squad in their homes and in their facilities at the club (don't use communal changing rooms, gyms etc), don't share houses, then they will be OK. I don't know that. They will be tested continually, and if it's unworkable clubs will find out readily enough. It's a lot safer environment to be is than many workers working now in unventilated closed environments.

At least think about it.

There is another argument that some fans can't stand the thought of football when their is so much illness, anxiety and death but when it comes to match-day you mighy enjoy sitting down for a couple of hours and watching some football. I've been through Better Call Saul and numerous series on Netflix. Nothing wrong with escaping from reality for a while. Footballers reality really isn't so bad you know. Not in my opinion anyway.
 
Chappie said:
When we play Brighton and Southampton away, where are the team staying, no hotels open
How are they getting there , are they going in their own cars due to social distancing
May sound daft but have they thought about all these little inponderables
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We don't yet know where teams are playing do we? What's wrong with traveling by cars. We have been told to do it. I don't know what the exact percentage of the workforce is working at the moment but I suspect it's very significant. There are bus drivers, and supermarket workers doing occupations which I consider to be far more vulnerable. We hear about meat-processing plants where literally 100s of workers have got ill, but they continue operating. These are the issues that make me recoil. The thought of players in the open air does not have the same shock-value for me than it does others. Perhaps I am mis-informed, or perhaps they are?
 
SPIDERBOY said:
Will the ball be "disinfected" after every throwing?
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You could easily do that if you wanted. Players could wear gloves. Why should football be any different to any other occupation right now? Many people are wearing masks. Security guards in shops are wearing those visors.

It's all bizarre when you see it and think about it but most will have to do similar like it or not.
 
plongo said:
I agree with this point of view. Finding it hard to believe what I've just read in the Athletic re: Liverpool's exemplary record of self-policing;
"As The Athletic reported last week, fans groups and experts on football policing have questioned why the police are so convinced football supporters will not respect the social distancing guidelines, and it is understood that several clubs, including likely champions Liverpool, have pointed out they have strong relations with their fans and a good record on policing themselves. "
YCNMIU
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As long as you dismiss Heysel, the mad charge at Hillborough once the gate was open, innumerable stands-offs pre- and post-match, hopping over turnstiles for those memorable European nights, wrecked opposition coaches, they're a pretty well-behaved bunch of scallies who just love their football!
 
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Marvin said:
You could easily do that if you wanted. Players could wear gloves. Why should football be any different to any other occupation right now? Many people are wearing masks. Security guards in shops are wearing those visors.

It's all bizarre when you see it and think about it but most will have to do similar like it or not.
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That's it! All teams to wear EPP - gloves, those welding masks, all in team colours. And then yer could have a fuckin' big sale in the club shop - just in case the second wave comes along.

The PL now warning players that the game will die if they don't agree to play. Wonder how many deaths among the players would the PL regard as acceptable just so long as the game restarted. And they are also suggesting that players don't come face to face - how the fuck are you gonna defend a corner. Perhaps all corners will be goal kicks during CV-19. You can put in place all kinds of 'safety measures' but when it comes to a game of football I do wonder whether those fuckin' goons at the PL have ever played. We may see the dawn of a new sport - non-contact football! Premierball, anyone?
 
waspish said:
Reported few days ago that you should leave any parcel for up to 72 hours because the virus can hang around longer than thought!

But yeah let’s get football going.
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It's played outside.

This is what should bother you. Not footballers. From the BBC Live news feed:

It was fairly quiet early this morning, but it is now getting busier. I have seen some buses are arriving full to capacity with every seat taken, so it is obviously impossible for people to observe social distancing guidelines.

On the Tube platform, there were tannoy announcements reminding people to stand two metres apart, and most were able to. But inside the train carriages might be a different story.
 
plongo said:
I agree with this point of view. Finding it hard to believe what I've just read in the Athletic re: Liverpool's exemplary record of self-policing;
"As The Athletic reported last week, fans groups and experts on football policing have questioned why the police are so convinced football supporters will not respect the social distancing guidelines, and it is understood that several clubs, including likely champions Liverpool, have pointed out they have strong relations with their fans and a good record on policing themselves. "
YCNMIU
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Heysel, Hillsborough??
 
marco said:
scary figures indeed, but their wrong because the infected/recovery percentage is much much higher than those figures say, the true rate is below 2% and there is a lot of margin for error there
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Marco,

Maybe you'd like to produce the "correct" figures then. They are not "wrong" because of anything-they are fact and published daily. Without anything else to go on they are correct. Until we know the actual number of people who have or have had the virus then this is the only measure we can rely on
 
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
That's it! All teams to wear EPP - gloves, those welding masks, all in team colours. And then yer could have a fuckin' big sale in the club shop - just in case the second wave comes along.

The PL now warning players that the game will die if they don't agree to play. Wonder how many deaths among the players would the PL regard as acceptable just so long as the game restarted. And they are also suggesting that players don't come face to face - how the fuck are you gonna defend a corner. Perhaps all corners will be goal kicks during CV-19. You can put in place all kinds of 'safety measures' but when it comes to a game of football I do wonder whether those fuckin' goons at the PL have ever played. We may see the dawn of a new sport - non-contact football! Premierball, anyone?
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No one can say that any particular activity is 100% risk-free. You take an occupation in it's totality and you start from an understanding of how viral transmission works, and make an overall assessment. I trust someone has done that. Clearly football is not an essential occupation and the government do not benefit greatly from its activity, so I tend to trust that if SAGE say its safe, it is and this is happening across many of the European leagues, and in other sports too.
 
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