Corrupt Officiating Within the English game

[blueinsa]

The Leicester pen certainly looks a pen in real time

As a ref you saying that frightens me it really does.

It has to be deliberate handball and no way can a ball striking a hand from 3 or 4 yards struck with such power ever be deliberate. The defender was sliding in to block the shot. His arms where never out stretched like a keepers and to say it needs a video reply to show no penalty is scary as it was clear to the vast majority in real time it was no penalty.

For what its worth the game is so fast these days at the top level you guys now need the help of technology and its something that needs to happen fast. Embrace it in an open manner like ive said above and the game will be so much better for it.

 

[Mikejl]

A mate of mine is a referee and is on a special FA fast track programme. He's currently doing the lower levels such as Blackburn youth, Manchester City Women, etc. If he continues his development then there's a real chance he could make the higher leagues. He's from the local area and claims to support Rochdale, although having lived with him for the whole of my third year at university I know for a fact that he has a very real liking for United - even attending some of their games. Just another for the future I guess...

(In all seriousness he's a very good referee and doesn't show any bias, although I'd still think it'd be a joke if there was ever an opportunity for him to referee the scum)

This is a great point, it's like the Wythenshawe rag Taylor who claims to support Alty. You wonder if they are encouraged to state they support a lower league team so as not to ruin their chances of reffing at the top

 

[Mancity1980]

What you state about the salaries is interesting and in a league awash with a lot more money it is wrong that the linesmen don't at least have parity with the other big European leagues. Their decisions are crucial and on many occasions are match-deciding (as highlighted in your examples), so come on FA get your hand in your deep pockets and pay them more!

Having say that I was under the impression that we have a group of officials that interchange between acting as referees, assistant referees and linesmen?

 

[mat]

What you state about the salaries is interesting and in a league awash with a lot more money it is wrong that the linesmen don't at least have parity with the other big European leagues. Their decisions are crucial and on many occasions are match-deciding (as highlighted in your examples), so come on FA get your hand in your deep pockets and pay them more!

Having say that I was under the impression that we have a group of officials that interchange between acting as referees, assistant referees and linesmen?

For a while they went round as "teams" this was changed after people started sniffing round twattenberg and one of his lino's deciscions.

 

[chesterguy]

I disagree. I think the offside is quite obviously incorrect, I presume it's because the Lino misses the flick on which puts terry in, it a sideways header which would be hard to pick up from the sidelines, the ref could have helped him out there and didn't. I can't comment about the added time as I didn't see the game, 8 mins is certainly excessive but we know how bad Everton are for time wasting!

The Leicester pen certainly looks a pen in real time, much like Micah Richards at Liverpool back in 2012, one that with the benefit of video replays would be overturned.

I'm sure as a ref myself (doing semi professional football and under 18 professional academy's) I'm biased in favour of the referee, but I don't think that any of these decisions, or any top flight officials are corrupt.

I find it strange that people think there is no corruption in football. We know at the top of FIFA corruption was rife. We know that many of the historical big clubs United, Bayern, Real, Barcelona have ex or current Dirctors within UEFA. We have the head of the Premier League Scudamore openly bemoaning the demise of United

Do we really believe that these organisations put no pressure on the officials? How many dodgy penalties have United had over the years? How many have we had turned down?

To believe that there is no corruption is niaive in my opinion.

Football needs a clearout from the very top to the very bottom

 

[IH8MUFC]

Not every decision is corrupt or bent etc...

Regarding the Terry offside it looks like the ball comes off of the Everton defender. Remember for a linesman you are trying to look along the line and at the player playing the ball. It's not as easy as it is for us to watch it in slow motion with a fancy line across the pitch. In fact it's impossible for any person in the world to do and get right 100% of the time.

Regarding the handball Cissokho has his arm/hand in an unnatural position then waves it down. It's a penalty in my opinion due to how he moves it.

2 more bad decisions for you are: The Naughton red card for Swansea. It wasn't even a foul let alone a red card. In real time it looks like a bad foul due to Mvila's reaction.

The second is the penalty that wasn't given on Sterling vs Everton. For me this is the worst and if any decision in the last week is "bent/corrupt" it's this one. It's a clear foul. The Everton player wipes him out. It's impossible to miss. No confusion, no middle ground.

In conclusion people need to make more logical opinions to refereeing/linesmans decisions. They get one look at it in real time. We get multiple camera angles and have it slowed right down.

In other sports they have video replays for a reason, it's 2016 it should be in football.

 

[Armaan]

Thought the LEICSTER one was a pen myself.

 

[blueinsa]

Thought the LEICSTER one was a pen myself.

If you honestly believe it was a deliberate handball then fair enough, i disagree but i respect your opinion.

If however you think its down to unnatural arm position or such other crap then you have fallen for the recent media driven attempt to change the laws of the game to excuse or accept poor decisions from officials.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I find it strange that people think there is no corruption in football. We know at the top of FIFA corruption was rife. We know that many of the historical big clubs United, Bayern, Real, Barcelona have ex or current Dirctors within UEFA. We have the head of the Premier League Scudamore openly bemoaning the demise of United.

We know that athletics is corrupt from top to bottom and large scale drug-taking has been covered up. We know that drug-taking in cycling was endemic and was covered up. We know that football in even places like Italy is totally corrupt. There's evidence that football in Spain is corrupt, with decisions being given in favour of Real Madrid & Barcelona. There has been proven match-fixing involving referees in Germany, although not in the top division.

In Eastern Europe, Africa and Asia, corruption is endemic, involving bookies, referees, players and other officials. Apparently even our 3-2 win in Munich a few seasons ago was investigated by Interpol on suspicion of match-fixing, which put Pellegrini's assertion that he didn't realise we'd win the group if we scored another goal into an entirely different light. Referees have been quietly moved out out the front-line in the PL a couple of times. We told Riley that Mason would not be acceptable to referee our games in the first PL winning season and Riley stood him down. Why would he do that unless we had good reason to insist?

There's so much money involved both in terms of broadcast revenues and gambling that it's incredibly naive to declare there is no corruption. There is but people would prefer not to see it.

 

[kippaxblue76]

Not every decision is corrupt or bent etc...

Regarding the Terry offside it looks like the ball comes off of the Everton defender. Remember for a linesman you are trying to look along the line and at the player playing the ball. It's not as easy as it is for us to watch it in slow motion with a fancy line across the pitch. In fact it's impossible for any person in the world to do and get right 100% of the time.

Regarding the handball Cissokho has his arm/hand in an unnatural position then waves it down. It's a penalty in my opinion due to how he moves it.

2 more bad decisions for you are: The Naughton red card for Swansea. It wasn't even a foul let alone a red card. In real time it looks like a bad foul due to Mvila's reaction.

The second is the penalty that wasn't given on Sterling vs Everton. For me this is the worst and if any decision in the last week is "bent/corrupt" it's this one. It's a clear foul. The Everton player wipes him out. It's impossible to miss. No confusion, no middle ground.

In conclusion people need to make more logical opinions to refereeing/linesmans decisions. They get one look at it in real time. We get multiple camera angles and have it slowed right down.

In other sports they have video replays for a reason, it's 2016 it should be in football.

Very well balanced post.