Corruption in English football?

mat said:
Mike Celebrity Dean is a ****. However this time I think the rag sympathiser in VAR swayed him. Commentary mentioned Mason telling Dean to "look for the fist"

By no means does this let that bent bastard off. He was suspended a few years ago for his business relationship with a bookmaker.
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Fred Done?
 
Northblue said:
Are you suggesting the players are in on the script too?
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Absolutely thats what I said... And i cant have my mind changed because I've watched them do it.. Everyone should look and see if they can see it for themselves..

We're talking evolution here.. example one event... the fixed match against Chelsea after when Drogba had a big rant at the tv cameras.... when that happens it doesn't suit anybody!

Broadcast an live event to millions and have the star player call out a fix and everyone watching can hear him? Think about that... broadcasters aren't happy, govern bodies aren't happy, players aren't happy, fans aren't happy... And the money pile shrinks! <<--- Is the important thing.. People don't believe then they stop watching.. so broadcasters lose money, gov bodies lose money, players get paid less, fans love it less.. Look at the stadiums in Italy ffs

Unless you think that the lesson Uefa learned from Drogba was.. We had better be straight up going forward.. hehehehe No! They and the others will have thought.. right.. football is too big and too watched to be able to get away with having the ref on order to make sure that what's best for business actually happens... so.. we need to make sure that the players understand whats best for business too.. right? They like earning 150k a week instead of having to double up as a plumber.. The money they get in no way relies on a genuine contest.. Cant you see that? It relies on billions of people watching..

It's a simple evolution to the same way you see other dodgy stuff working.. Saw someone mention Hinchcliffe talking shit about a penalty not being deserved.. Well.. Who the fuck is hinchcliffe and how did he suddenly get on the pundit rota..? By agreeing to talk shit about penalties, thats how.. Just like how all the other pundits you see are the ones who have also agreed to talk whatever shit they are told to.. Not a fair journey to the top, and thats how over time its completely controlled..

Same for the players.. and over time you'll just have two sets of 11 that both understand whats supposed to happen.. The ones that didn't seem like playing ball... well just arrange a player transfer from your agency of a player you know is friendly to the game.. or have your media contacts ruin his image and destroy him on motd and in the papers and once he agrees to play ball then build him back up again as though he is gods gift to football...

Are we already at the point of two whole 11s that know the score...? Well, you get matches where over 50% of the players on the pitch are with a single agency... and if you merge the top two or three british ones which seem to work together a lot then you can get over 75% on occasions....

So tbh I think its really stupid to think there's no chance of everyone on the pitch knowing what the result is supposed to be... really fucking stupid.. Does it actually happen? I can't prove it.. :D


Maly Wilson said:
So are you saying football is fixed or there is corruption in the game? Big difference between the 2.

If you’re saying there’s corruption in the game, I totally agree as there’s loads of evidence since the year dot. Suggesting football is fixed like WWE is too far fetched for me to buy into & there’s no clear evidence that I’ve seen to suggest otherwise, especially seeing as it’s clear that certain authoritative figures don’t want City winning fuck all
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You won every domestic trophy a year or so ago so how does that add up? I'm not interested in this petty level of things.. There's no "my club" only vessels for money hungry ass holes who don't care what colour they have to dress up in this week... Let me guess you believe the badge kissers? ;) hehehe

the evidence thing.. fine, i respect that.. But have you investigate the matches I mentioned in my post..? I've given you things to think about.. you can disagree but don't put your fingers in your ears and repeat the same old stuff... I am telling you.. our winning goal v tunisia was completely fake... predetermined result and outcome.. orchastrated by the players on the pitch at the corner.. both teams... and you can clearly see them doing it.. No subtlety.. bloody obvious obvious obvious!.. None so blind as those who do not want to see right...?

you disagree, i respect you.. but this is pointless unless you've looked at that match with your own eyes.. don't have selective vision like the pl refs you hate :)

collusion is fixing not corruption.. but tell me..? how does a business collude with itself? makes no sense.. the businesses has its own interests at heart.. So when an agency has 4-5 players at every club,, or a couple of the biggest stars at all the top clubs in europe... is it really collusion when those players agree on outcomes favourable to the agency? Not really, thats business.. and the structure makes it more likely to happen than not.

You believe in these co-workers maskerading as opponents? They make less if they compete with each other... And the domestiques, if they're players or clubs, they get a better deal than by faring for themselves....

Please explain to me how it is in their interests to go out and have a legitimate match every week? Bunch of stupid 20 somethings effectively in charge of the biggest gambling market in the world...and in such a way that no-one can really tell they've manipulated things...? that alone should tell you everything..
 
Tubes26 said:
Absolutely thats what I said... And i cant have my mind changed because I've watched them do it.. Everyone should look and see if they can see it for themselves..

We're talking evolution here.. example one event... the fixed match against Chelsea after when Drogba had a big rant at the tv cameras.... when that happens it doesn't suit anybody!

Broadcast an live event to millions and have the star player call out a fix and everyone watching can hear him? Think about that... broadcasters aren't happy, govern bodies aren't happy, players aren't happy, fans aren't happy... And the money pile shrinks! <<--- Is the important thing.. People don't believe then they stop watching.. so broadcasters lose money, gov bodies lose money, players get paid less, fans love it less.. Look at the stadiums in Italy ffs

Unless you think that the lesson Uefa learned from Drogba was.. We had better be straight up going forward.. hehehehe No! They and the others will have thought.. right.. football is too big and too watched to be able to get away with having the ref on order to make sure that what's best for business actually happens... so.. we need to make sure that the players understand whats best for business too.. right? They like earning 150k a week instead of having to double up as a plumber.. The money they get in no way relies on a genuine contest.. Cant you see that? It relies on billions of people watching..

It's a simple evolution to the same way you see other dodgy stuff working.. Saw someone mention Hinchcliffe talking shit about a penalty not being deserved.. Well.. Who the fuck is hinchcliffe and how did he suddenly get on the pundit rota..? By agreeing to talk shit about penalties, thats how.. Just like how all the other pundits you see are the ones who have also agreed to talk whatever shit they are told to.. Not a fair journey to the top, and thats how over time its completely controlled..

Same for the players.. and over time you'll just have two sets of 11 that both understand whats supposed to happen.. The ones that didn't seem like playing ball... well just arrange a player transfer from your agency of a player you know is friendly to the game.. or have your media contacts ruin his image and destroy him on motd and in the papers and once he agrees to play ball then build him back up again as though he is gods gift to football...

Are we already at the point of two whole 11s that know the score...? Well, you get matches where over 50% of the players on the pitch are with a single agency... and if you merge the top two or three british ones which seem to work together a lot then you can get over 75% on occasions....

So tbh I think its really stupid to think there's no chance of everyone on the pitch knowing what the result is supposed to be... really fucking stupid.. Does it actually happen? I can't prove it.. :D




You won every domestic trophy a year or so ago so how does that add up? I'm not interested in this petty level of things.. There's no "my club" only vessels for money hungry ass holes who don't care what colour they have to dress up in this week... Let me guess you believe the badge kissers? ;) hehehe

the evidence thing.. fine, i respect that.. But have you investigate the matches I mentioned in my post..? I've given you things to think about.. you can disagree but don't put your fingers in your ears and repeat the same old stuff... I am telling you.. our winning goal v tunisia was completely fake... predetermined result and outcome.. orchastrated by the players on the pitch at the corner.. both teams... and you can clearly see them doing it.. No subtlety.. bloody obvious obvious obvious!.. None so blind as those who do not want to see right...?

you disagree, i respect you.. but this is pointless unless you've looked at that match with your own eyes.. don't have selective vision like the pl refs you hate :)

collusion is fixing not corruption.. but tell me..? how does a business collude with itself? makes no sense.. the businesses has its own interests at heart.. So when an agency has 4-5 players at every club,, or a couple of the biggest stars at all the top clubs in europe... is it really collusion when those players agree on outcomes favourable to the agency? Not really, thats business.. and the structure makes it more likely to happen than not.

You believe in these co-workers maskerading as opponents? They make less if they compete with each other... And the domestiques, if they're players or clubs, they get a better deal than by faring for themselves....

Please explain to me how it is in their interests to go out and have a legitimate match every week? Bunch of stupid 20 somethings effectively in charge of the biggest gambling market in the world...and in such a way that no-one can really tell they've manipulated things...? that alone should tell you everything..
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You are David Icke and i claim my five pound note.
 
I am fucking loving Tubes26 posts.

Great reading.
 
Tubes26 said:
Absolutely thats what I said... And i cant have my mind changed because I've watched them do it.. Everyone should look and see if they can see it for themselves..

We're talking evolution here.. example one event... the fixed match against Chelsea after when Drogba had a big rant at the tv cameras.... when that happens it doesn't suit anybody!

Broadcast an live event to millions and have the star player call out a fix and everyone watching can hear him? Think about that... broadcasters aren't happy, govern bodies aren't happy, players aren't happy, fans aren't happy... And the money pile shrinks! <<--- Is the important thing.. People don't believe then they stop watching.. so broadcasters lose money, gov bodies lose money, players get paid less, fans love it less.. Look at the stadiums in Italy ffs

Unless you think that the lesson Uefa learned from Drogba was.. We had better be straight up going forward.. hehehehe No! They and the others will have thought.. right.. football is too big and too watched to be able to get away with having the ref on order to make sure that what's best for business actually happens... so.. we need to make sure that the players understand whats best for business too.. right? They like earning 150k a week instead of having to double up as a plumber.. The money they get in no way relies on a genuine contest.. Cant you see that? It relies on billions of people watching..

It's a simple evolution to the same way you see other dodgy stuff working.. Saw someone mention Hinchcliffe talking shit about a penalty not being deserved.. Well.. Who the fuck is hinchcliffe and how did he suddenly get on the pundit rota..? By agreeing to talk shit about penalties, thats how.. Just like how all the other pundits you see are the ones who have also agreed to talk whatever shit they are told to.. Not a fair journey to the top, and thats how over time its completely controlled..

Same for the players.. and over time you'll just have two sets of 11 that both understand whats supposed to happen.. The ones that didn't seem like playing ball... well just arrange a player transfer from your agency of a player you know is friendly to the game.. or have your media contacts ruin his image and destroy him on motd and in the papers and once he agrees to play ball then build him back up again as though he is gods gift to football...

Are we already at the point of two whole 11s that know the score...? Well, you get matches where over 50% of the players on the pitch are with a single agency... and if you merge the top two or three british ones which seem to work together a lot then you can get over 75% on occasions....

So tbh I think its really stupid to think there's no chance of everyone on the pitch knowing what the result is supposed to be... really fucking stupid.. Does it actually happen? I can't prove it.. :D




You won every domestic trophy a year or so ago so how does that add up? I'm not interested in this petty level of things.. There's no "my club" only vessels for money hungry ass holes who don't care what colour they have to dress up in this week... Let me guess you believe the badge kissers? ;) hehehe

the evidence thing.. fine, i respect that.. But have you investigate the matches I mentioned in my post..? I've given you things to think about.. you can disagree but don't put your fingers in your ears and repeat the same old stuff... I am telling you.. our winning goal v tunisia was completely fake... predetermined result and outcome.. orchastrated by the players on the pitch at the corner.. both teams... and you can clearly see them doing it.. No subtlety.. bloody obvious obvious obvious!.. None so blind as those who do not want to see right...?

you disagree, i respect you.. but this is pointless unless you've looked at that match with your own eyes.. don't have selective vision like the pl refs you hate :)

collusion is fixing not corruption.. but tell me..? how does a business collude with itself? makes no sense.. the businesses has its own interests at heart.. So when an agency has 4-5 players at every club,, or a couple of the biggest stars at all the top clubs in europe... is it really collusion when those players agree on outcomes favourable to the agency? Not really, thats business.. and the structure makes it more likely to happen than not.

You believe in these co-workers maskerading as opponents? They make less if they compete with each other... And the domestiques, if they're players or clubs, they get a better deal than by faring for themselves....

Please explain to me how it is in their interests to go out and have a legitimate match every week? Bunch of stupid 20 somethings effectively in charge of the biggest gambling market in the world...and in such a way that no-one can really tell they've manipulated things...? that alone should tell you everything..
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I’m guessing you are also aware that the earth is flat & the moon is made of cheese?
 
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