Ricster
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Chris Mac said:
Thanks, i thought there might be some running commentry :(
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Court case from derby
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Thanks, i thought there might be some running commentry :(
Chris Mac
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Ricster said:Chris Mac said:<a class="postlink" href="http://www.courtserve2.net/courtlists/current/crown/manmi_T101104.01.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.courtserve2.net/courtlists/c ... 104.01.htm</a>
Thanks, i thought there might be some running commentry :(
We've not stooped as low as Court TV yet. Another few years though........!
Ricster
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Chris Mac said:Ricster said:Thanks, i thought there might be some running commentry :(
We've not stooped as low as Court TV yet. Another few years though........!
Here you go
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/xhibit/manchesterminshullst.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/xhib ... hullst.htm</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/xhibit/statusdescription.html#20907" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/xhib ... html#20907</a><br /><br />-- Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:44 am --<br /><br />
Ricster said:Chris Mac said:We've not stooped as low as Court TV yet. Another few years though........!
Here you go
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/xhibit/manchesterminshullst.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/xhib ... hullst.htm</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/xhibit/statusdescription.html#20907" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/xhib ... html#20907</a>
Prosecution Closing Speech - 10:17
Chris Mac
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Nice one cheers.
LongsightM13
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Latest from MUEN . . .
Two Manchester United stewards accused of pushing a City fan down a stairwell at Old Trafford told a jury they did not touch him.
Paul Stringer and Mark Roberts are alleged to have assaulted Peter Sweeney during the derby at Old Trafford, leaving him with two broken legs.
The stewards said Mr Sweeney stopped on the stairs, then slipped and fell. Mr Roberts said they ‘instinctively raised their hands’, but made no contact.
The fan then fell down eight stairs and broke his right shin and left heel, Manchester’s Minshull Street Crown Court heard.
Mr Sweeney, from Macclesfield, earlier admitted he had been verbally abusive and was caught smoking cannabis in the toilets before the alleged assault, on September 20, 2009.
The jury was shown CCTV footage that prosecutors say proves Mr Sweeney was pushed down the East Wing stairwell.
Mark Monaghan, prosecuting, said: “When he stopped on the stairs, perhaps instinctively, you two gave him a push to keep him going. We can see that on the stills and the video.”
Mr Stringer, a steward who has also been a doorman for 23 years, denied contact was made.
He had already escorted the fan out of Old Trafford once, for smoking in the toilets, but he ‘sneaked back in’, the jury heard.
Mr Stringer contacted Mr Roberts, his supervisor, and the two escorted Mr Sweeney down the stairs, it was said.
Mr Stringer said: “I put my hand up. My concern was that he was going to turn round and run back up the stairs. I didn’t touch him at all.”
Mr Roberts also denied assault and said: “I haven’t touched him or pushed him.”
Mr Sweeney, 47, admitted he had been prescribed methadone by a doctor and said he had drunk alcohol before the match.
Forensic pharmacology expert Prof Robin Ferner, who appeared for the defence, said alcohol and drugs would ‘significantly increase the risk of falling’. But Mr Sweeney maintained he was pushed.
Mr Roberts, 47, of George Street, Oldham, and Mr Stringer, 46, of Grange Way, Runcorn, Cheshire, deny assault occasioning grievous bodily harm and assault occasioning actual bodily harm.
Two Manchester United stewards accused of pushing a City fan down a stairwell at Old Trafford told a jury they did not touch him.
Paul Stringer and Mark Roberts are alleged to have assaulted Peter Sweeney during the derby at Old Trafford, leaving him with two broken legs.
The stewards said Mr Sweeney stopped on the stairs, then slipped and fell. Mr Roberts said they ‘instinctively raised their hands’, but made no contact.
The fan then fell down eight stairs and broke his right shin and left heel, Manchester’s Minshull Street Crown Court heard.
Mr Sweeney, from Macclesfield, earlier admitted he had been verbally abusive and was caught smoking cannabis in the toilets before the alleged assault, on September 20, 2009.
The jury was shown CCTV footage that prosecutors say proves Mr Sweeney was pushed down the East Wing stairwell.
Mark Monaghan, prosecuting, said: “When he stopped on the stairs, perhaps instinctively, you two gave him a push to keep him going. We can see that on the stills and the video.”
Mr Stringer, a steward who has also been a doorman for 23 years, denied contact was made.
He had already escorted the fan out of Old Trafford once, for smoking in the toilets, but he ‘sneaked back in’, the jury heard.
Mr Stringer contacted Mr Roberts, his supervisor, and the two escorted Mr Sweeney down the stairs, it was said.
Mr Stringer said: “I put my hand up. My concern was that he was going to turn round and run back up the stairs. I didn’t touch him at all.”
Mr Roberts also denied assault and said: “I haven’t touched him or pushed him.”
Mr Sweeney, 47, admitted he had been prescribed methadone by a doctor and said he had drunk alcohol before the match.
Forensic pharmacology expert Prof Robin Ferner, who appeared for the defence, said alcohol and drugs would ‘significantly increase the risk of falling’. But Mr Sweeney maintained he was pushed.
Mr Roberts, 47, of George Street, Oldham, and Mr Stringer, 46, of Grange Way, Runcorn, Cheshire, deny assault occasioning grievous bodily harm and assault occasioning actual bodily harm.
Glasgow Man City
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LongsightM13 said:Latest from MUEN . . .
Two Manchester United stewards accused of pushing a City fan down a stairwell at Old Trafford told a jury they did not touch him.
Paul Stringer and Mark Roberts are alleged to have assaulted Peter Sweeney during the derby at Old Trafford, leaving him with two broken legs.
The stewards said Mr Sweeney stopped on the stairs, then slipped and fell. Mr Roberts said they ‘instinctively raised their hands’, but made no contact.
The fan then fell down eight stairs and broke his right shin and left heel, Manchester’s Minshull Street Crown Court heard.
Mr Sweeney, from Macclesfield, earlier admitted he had been verbally abusive and was caught smoking cannabis in the toilets before the alleged assault, on September 20, 2009.
The jury was shown CCTV footage that prosecutors say proves Mr Sweeney was pushed down the East Wing stairwell.
Mark Monaghan, prosecuting, said: “When he stopped on the stairs, perhaps instinctively, you two gave him a push to keep him going. We can see that on the stills and the video.”
Mr Stringer, a steward who has also been a doorman for 23 years, denied contact was made.
He had already escorted the fan out of Old Trafford once, for smoking in the toilets, but he ‘sneaked back in’, the jury heard.
Mr Stringer contacted Mr Roberts, his supervisor, and the two escorted Mr Sweeney down the stairs, it was said.
Mr Stringer said: “I put my hand up. My concern was that he was going to turn round and run back up the stairs. I didn’t touch him at all.”
Mr Roberts also denied assault and said: “I haven’t touched him or pushed him.”
Mr Sweeney, 47, admitted he had been prescribed methadone by a doctor and said he had drunk alcohol before the match.
Forensic pharmacology expert Prof Robin Ferner, who appeared for the defence, said alcohol and drugs would ‘significantly increase the risk of falling’. But Mr Sweeney maintained he was pushed.
Mr Roberts, 47, of George Street, Oldham, and Mr Stringer, 46, of Grange Way, Runcorn, Cheshire, deny assault occasioning grievous bodily harm and assault occasioning actual bodily harm.
Sounds from that like they've got a good chance of getting away with it.
BufordUSABlue
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Glasgow Man City said:LongsightM13 said:Latest from MUEN . . .
Two Manchester United stewards accused of pushing a City fan down a stairwell at Old Trafford told a jury they did not touch him.
Paul Stringer and Mark Roberts are alleged to have assaulted Peter Sweeney during the derby at Old Trafford, leaving him with two broken legs.
The stewards said Mr Sweeney stopped on the stairs, then slipped and fell. Mr Roberts said they ‘instinctively raised their hands’, but made no contact.
The fan then fell down eight stairs and broke his right shin and left heel, Manchester’s Minshull Street Crown Court heard.
Mr Sweeney, from Macclesfield, earlier admitted he had been verbally abusive and was caught smoking cannabis in the toilets before the alleged assault, on September 20, 2009.
The jury was shown CCTV footage that prosecutors say proves Mr Sweeney was pushed down the East Wing stairwell.
Mark Monaghan, prosecuting, said: “When he stopped on the stairs, perhaps instinctively, you two gave him a push to keep him going. We can see that on the stills and the video.”
Mr Stringer, a steward who has also been a doorman for 23 years, denied contact was made.
He had already escorted the fan out of Old Trafford once, for smoking in the toilets, but he ‘sneaked back in’, the jury heard.
Mr Stringer contacted Mr Roberts, his supervisor, and the two escorted Mr Sweeney down the stairs, it was said.
Mr Stringer said: “I put my hand up. My concern was that he was going to turn round and run back up the stairs. I didn’t touch him at all.”
Mr Roberts also denied assault and said: “I haven’t touched him or pushed him.”
Mr Sweeney, 47, admitted he had been prescribed methadone by a doctor and said he had drunk alcohol before the match.
Forensic pharmacology expert Prof Robin Ferner, who appeared for the defence, said alcohol and drugs would ‘significantly increase the risk of falling’. But Mr Sweeney maintained he was pushed.
Mr Roberts, 47, of George Street, Oldham, and Mr Stringer, 46, of Grange Way, Runcorn, Cheshire, deny assault occasioning grievous bodily harm and assault occasioning actual bodily harm.
Sounds from that like they've got a good chance of getting away with it.
Will the verdict be delivered today does anybody know?
mcmanus
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After reading Longsight's post I think they will get NOT guilty.
Can't see a jury siding with a bloke who uses methadone, was smoking a spliff and been drinking.
Can't see a jury siding with a bloke who uses methadone, was smoking a spliff and been drinking.
GaudinoMotors
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mcmanus said:After reading Longsight's post I think they will get NOT guilty.
Can't see a jury siding with a bloke who uses methadone, was smoking a spliff and been drinking.
and came back after being told to leave
Had sympathy for his case to start with - now not so sure (apart from the brakes).
If he was a nitid fan we'd have a field day
daveduke67
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GaudinoMotors said:mcmanus said:After reading Longsight's post I think they will get NOT guilty.
Can't see a jury siding with a bloke who uses methadone, was smoking a spliff and been drinking.
and came back after being told to leave
Had sympathy for his case to start with - now not so sure (apart from the brakes).
If he was a nitid fan we'd have a field day
It's the two stewards who are on trial - the jury have to decide if they threw him down the stairs or not. It's not about whether the guy is a social pariah or not.