COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[kevin horlocks wand]

Yes and pets can also spread it, even though they can’t catch it. Anything can spread it, even a door handle.

there is no evidence that it can pass from pets to humans. The only way that would happen if is someone with the germ on his hand strokes your pet and you stroke it afterwards and lick your hands and contract the virus , same with any surface like a door handle.

that’s the germs that are spreading it mate , not your dog or the handle , or the bar in your pub.

that’s why washing your hands regularly is important.

 

[SWP's back]

the chief medical officer , the man In charge in the uk has just said it is.

And the World Health Organisation, who are coordinating the entire global response, say it’s 3.4%

 

[SWP's back]

It is though, isn't it? Unless every reputable news outlet is incorrect including the chief medical officer.

See my post above. Then come back to me.

 

[Ballet-on-ice]

See my post above. Then come back to me.

So it's changed.

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

Is it just me or is anyone else thinking that there has been a huge over reaction to this virus. We don't stockpile food, close schools or talk about calling up the army for flu which appears to infect more people that this virus so why are we are talking the doomsday scenario about this? I am sure it can't be pleasant if you catch it but from what I have read flu causes far more deaths and far more people are likely to catch flu despite there being jabs available.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

See my post above. Then come back to me.

I know you like a row with everyone but the I am just telling you what the chief medical officer of the uk said this morning on the tv. That’s all . I know the WHO say it’s 3.4, I reference that in my post and how confusing it is if you read my post.

the WHO stats are actual by taking the confirmed cases divided by deaths globally.

I think the uk are making an assumption that it’s probably lower as some people catch it and express mild symptoms so do not report and are not in the stats . If you take issue with that assumption google the chief medical officer in the uk and shout at him.

actually at the end of the interview for perspective he gave the number of deaths for seasonal flu in the uk and I know you think people who make that comparison are thick so you might want to put him straight on that as well.

I gave a summary of the interview a few pages ago but I am sure it will be on YouTube / twitter as well now if you search for it.

 

[Cityfan]

I don't think we should get too hung up about the difference of around 1% and 3%, the final number will depend on how accurate case definitions are, the age structure of the population and the health facilities and response.
The problem is that it appears to be at least an order of magnitude greater than seasonal flu, whatever the number turns out to be and let's hope it's low.

 

[Nebuchadnezzar]

I've found that being glued to news and updates about this hasn't been conducive to the best mental state, so with that said I will be washing my hands often and focusing more on things around me. With that said, I am sat opposite a sneezing spluttering colleague with connections to South East Asia.

 

[cibaman]

Is it just me or is anyone else thinking that there has been a huge over reaction to this virus. We don't stockpile food, close schools or talk about calling up the army for flu which appears to infect more people that this virus so why are we are talking the doomsday scenario about this? I am sure it can't be pleasant if you catch it but from what I have read flu causes far more deaths and far more people are likely to catch flu despite there being jabs available.

How many people catch flu each year? They’re estimating tens of millions in the UK could catch coronavirus, up to 20% off work. And a lot more deaths

 

[Uffa]

Is it just me or is anyone else thinking that there has been a huge over reaction to this virus. We don't stockpile food, close schools or talk about calling up the army for flu which appears to infect more people that this virus so why are we are talking the doomsday scenario about this? I am sure it can't be pleasant if you catch it but from what I have read flu causes far more deaths and far more people are likely to catch flu despite there being jabs available.

Probably because this apparently has a slightly higher mortality rate compared to common flu and can cause more respiratory symptoms besides spreading efficiently, threatening to overwhelm the medical system with patients and possibly the economy if it isn't kept in check immediately. And since we don't have any jabs or specific cures yet, these are the measures we can use to contain it and limit its spread for now. Whether some are exceedingly cautious or not, we'll probably only know when this is over.

 

[aguero93:20]

I've stocked up on 200 tins of beans and 20kg of jasmine rice just to jump on the bandwagon. We shall see we if this thread is still going come late summer

Choosing to die of acute diarrhoea rather than coronavirus. Respect.

 

[aguero93:20]

Apparently Japan’s decision to close all schools is causing chaos in hospitals. One hospital, the only one in the region geared up to deal with coronavirus, is reporting an absenteeism rate among nurses of over 20%.

Who would have thought it?

Lazy fuckers.

 

[Cityfan]

Is it just me or is anyone else thinking that there has been a huge over reaction to this virus. We don't stockpile food, close schools or talk about calling up the army for flu which appears to infect more people that this virus so why are we are talking the doomsday scenario about this? I am sure it can't be pleasant if you catch it but from what I have read flu causes far more deaths and far more people are likely to catch flu despite there being jabs available.

Flu has caused more deaths, this virus appears to have the potential to cause far far more deaths than seasonal flu as as far as we know there is no community immunity unlike flu and the mortality rate is far higher.

 

[Blue Hefner]

Flu has caused more deaths, this virus appears to have the potential to cause far far more deaths than seasonal flu as as far as we know there is no community immunity unlike flu and the mortality rate is far higher.

But only the ‘economically inactive’ will die. Someone, somewhere at one think-tank or another will be very pleased.....

 

[SWP's back]

So it's changed.

Yesterday

 

[grunge]

https://www.vox.com/2020/3/2/21161067/coronavirus-covid19-china

An interview with one of the guys from the WHO. basically saying the idea that this is the tip of the ice berg isn't panning out, lots of testing has been done in China and the body of the iceberg is no where to be seen.

also states that it takes a long duration of exposure to catch it which is why family groups have been getting it instead of wide community spread.

Edit: Wrote Japan for some reason, meant China.

 

[SWP's back]

I don't think we should get too hung up about the difference of around 1% and 3%, the final number will depend on how accurate case definitions are, the age structure of the population and the health facilities and response.
The problem is that it appears to be at least an order of magnitude greater than seasonal flu, whatever the number turns out to be and let's hope it's low.

Well said.

 

[Ballet-on-ice]

Yesterday

Late last night/early this morning.

 

[Mon Autre]

Is it just me or is anyone else thinking that there has been a huge over reaction to this virus. We don't stockpile food, close schools or talk about calling up the army for flu which appears to infect more people that this virus so why are we are talking the doomsday scenario about this? I am sure it can't be pleasant if you catch it but from what I have read flu causes far more deaths and far more people are likely to catch flu despite there being jabs available.

It's because we can protect vulnerable people from the flu. Right now we have no way to protect high risk groups.

 

[TheRemainsOfTheDave]

https://www.vox.com/2020/3/2/21161067/coronavirus-covid19-china

An interview with one of the guys from the WHO. basically saying the idea that this is the tip of the ice berg isn't panning out, lots of testing has been done in Japan and the body of the iceberg is no where to be seen.

also states that it takes a long duration of exposure to catch it which is why family groups have been getting it instead of wide community spread.

This new CFR announced by WHO seems, to me, what is likely to happen IF the virus can take hold like it did in Wuhan, if we don't manage to contain it. There's an interesting article here using WHO statistics. Of course viruses can adapt which is probably why the experts are being cautious.