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Healdplace said:
Pubs bars and cafes can only open to 6 pm with no alcohol and strict restrictions.
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I honestly can't believe what I'm hearing here. What a joker she is. There is no evidence that hospitality is responsible for high numbers of spreading, what is she playing at. Can serve alcohol outside, that will work in winter in Scotland.
 
True_Blue69 said:
I honestly can't believe what I'm hearing here. What a joker she is. There is no evidence that hospitality is responsible for high numbers of spreading, what is she playing at. Can serve alcohol outside, that will work in winter in Scotland.
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This is why it's frustrating everyone seems to blame Boris for all these 'crazy' restrictions, across Europe the measures are pretty similar.
 
hilts said:
My gut feeling is the first wave helped stop/slow a rise second time round. If this is true protecting the vulnerable and allowing the rest to carry on might be worth at least looking into.
Could be completely wrong though.
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What exactly do you mean by 'looking into' ( as opposed to actually doing it).
And of course if you (or the Government) actually did it and were ' completely wrong' the impact would be catastrophic.
So time to come of the fence and say what you actually would do instead of hinting based on a minority scientific report being pedalled about.
 
Healdplace said:
Nicola Sturgeon - steep rise in people over 65 now testing positive in Scotland and translating into rising numers in hospital and on ventilators. Increase of 60% mentioned.
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The way I've seen over 65 s oblivious to taking precautions the last month, not at all surprised.
 
True_Blue69 said:
I honestly can't believe what I'm hearing here. What a joker she is. There is no evidence that hospitality is responsible for high numbers of spreading, what is she playing at. Can serve alcohol outside, that will work in winter in Scotland.
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Anywhere that a group of people can congregate indoors is clear and obvious issue. Its bound to happen in the UK very soon. As much as people say there is no evidence this comes from the hospitality sector, thats just not true. Its any indoor activity at all. The pub is the most non essential therefore should prob be the first closed, since Schools and university are far more of a priority.
 
True_Blue69 said:
I honestly can't believe what I'm hearing here. What a joker she is. There is no evidence that hospitality is responsible for high numbers of spreading, what is she playing at. Can serve alcohol outside, that will work in winter in Scotland.
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Look on the bright side: it could mean Tim Martin goes bankrupt.
 
Blue Potato said:
www.itv.com

Covid: Government 'close to closing pubs and restaurants in northern England' | ITV News

We are at a critical moment in the second surge of coronavirus and minister may soon impose more severe restrictions on the worst-hit areas. | ITV National News
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Peston suggesting that it's likely hospitality venues will be closed in large parts of the North with an announcement potentially next week, and that they may be closed before any support schemes for the businesses affected are finalised...
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It won't impact on Peston and his London chattering class mates who are making a nice living out of this crisis, mostly by sneering at people. People like him have made the situation worse. Their coverage has mostly concentrated on childish political squabbles instead of the bigger picture across the UK. He offers nothing: No analysis, no context, no solutions. This pandemic has been a political failure but it has also been a failure of journalism.
 
Nicola Sturgeon:

Mandatory use of face masks to be extended to more settings - eg corridors and canteens in work settings - enforcing them strictly where there is evidence too many are ignoring their use.

Shops also be asked to increase social distancing measures back to how they were in lockdown.

Measures NOT a new lockdown but designed to last 16 days only to prevent a further full lockdown.

But there is still a risk that the virus will run out of control by end of October so up to the public to make these sacrifices to avoid worse needing to be done.
 
shemnel said:
i think people are also forgetting, when talking about locking down the elderly, that there is a decent proportion of old people (and by old let's say over 70 for arguments sake, though that's not that old) who dont want to be locked down. My local is a proper oldies lunchtime and early evening place, they love it, and many have said they wouldnt want to change etc. There is an attitude that they want to enjoy their remaining years, see their grandchildren while they can in what seems to be an uncertain future. many are giving 2 fingers to being scared and accept the risk.

this is just what i hear ones near me say, but i can envisage this attitude repeating up and down the UK.
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Nobody WANTS to be locked down, do they.

Some people realise it is their RESPONSIBILITY for the good of others, if not for themselves. The more selfish types seem to struggle with this concept.
 
Nicola Sturgeon:

Pubs bars and cafes can serve alcohol up to 10 pm outside only.

And already booked weddings and funerals will be allowed to serve alcohol.
 
The areas who have closure of all licensed premises, inside and out are Greater Glasgow, Clyde, Ayrshire and Arran, Lothian and Forth Valley. Cafe's with no alcohol licence will be allowed to stay open to 6pm. Hotels can stay open
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These areas also have the added restrictions:-

Contact sports (non professional) suspended for the 16 days.

Snooker, pool, bowling alleys, casinos and bingo halls all must close for the 16 days.

No outdoor live events in these areas either.
 
Healdplace said:
Nicola Sturgeon:

Mandatory use of face masks to be extended to more settings - eg corridors and canteens in work settings - enforcing them strictly where there is evidence too many are ignoring their use.

Shops also be asked to increase social distancing measures back to how they were in lockdown.

Measures NOT a new lockdown but designed to last 16 days only to prevent a further full lockdown.

But there is still a risk that the virus will run out of control by end of October so up to the public to make these sacrifices to avoid worse needing to be done.
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Continue to comment if you feel like it Heald.
I hugely appreciate your effort in all this. Thanks.
 
Healdplace said:
Nicola Sturgeon:

Mandatory use of face masks to be extended to more settings - eg corridors and canteens in work settings - enforcing them strictly where there is evidence too many are ignoring their use.

Shops also be asked to increase social distancing measures back to how they were in lockdown.

Measures NOT a new lockdown but designed to last 16 days only to prevent a further full lockdown.

But there is still a risk that the virus will run out of control by end of October so up to the public to make these sacrifices to avoid worse needing to be done.
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Does this coincide with the October school holidays in Scotland?
 
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