COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[SilverFox2]

According to this report there are around a thousand additional deaths in nursing homes that do not appear in the UK's death toll https://www.dumptheguardian.com/world/2020/apr/09/covid-19-hundreds-of-uk-care-home-deaths-not-added-to-official-toll

Are these in addition to the ones added once a week from a different source (is it ONC).?

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Their numbers are wrong because the maths for the UK is wrong.

Which maths? Nothing wrong as far as I can see, not doubting I've missed something though.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

25 years service and I can give you an overwhelming first hand account of how we are assaulted, headbutted, spat at, abused on a daily basis dealing with the worst of society. Why don't you volunteer to be a special then you would really witness 'jaw dropping' incidents of how people can be?

I don’t know why you seem to think that I think I’m saying that society is full of angels and everyone in the force is a ****. That’s not what I’m saying at all.

Some of the things the Police have to put up with and are subject to are abhorrent. Like I said I wouldn’t blink twice if these cunts who have COVID-19 who are coughing and spitting at officers were shot in the head.

But when an ex-girlfriend of mine turned up at my work once with cuts and bruises all over her and one eye closed up because her Police sergeant father had beaten her up, my eyes were opened that the Police force has cunts within it too.

 

[waspish]

Sky have an article saying research shows that the virus can travel in the air and last longer around 7 mins now that a big worry if totally true.

 

[BlueRockape]

why once again do we have an example of those charged with enforcing the rules just fucking ignoring them? You get cops on line moaning about a lack of PPE then they stand shoulder to shouler like this ffs?

WTF
Do you expect they have a difficult job sorting out the feral little cûnts that are being bred in the UK
On a side note I would close all public places this weekend

 

[give it to gordon]

There is no official limit on how long you can exercise.
It was Gove who said an hour.

Yea just found that so with no limits on exercise I guess I can still do a 5 hour ride. So in practice this lockdown has little effect on my life , still go to work, can still do a long bike ride. The only thing I cant do is drop the roof on my mx5 and go for a drive in the countryside, but I can ride my bike in the countryside. That's clear lol.

Ps I wont be doing a 5 hrs bike ride I am not that stupid ;)

 

[Marvin]

Are these in addition to the ones added once a week from a different source (is it ONC).?

I re-read it and I think the ONS will catch-up with the missing deaths to an extent providing COVID19 features on the death certificate. I noticed that France do a similar thing where they adjust their data periodically to include deaths outside the hospital sector. I don't think this is a cover up as Prof Whitty was very open about this in a recent briefing. It's more a question that the the death data is under-stated at the moment. The same problem may exist in other countries

 

[somapop]

Interesting points about the R0 being a lot higher now (around 6?). Sounds awful on first glance but there was a point made on here last night that it might actually be good news (perhaps meaning a higher portion of the population are already infected with mild symptoms).
There's a few discussions on the same thing knocking around. But I genuinely do not know....it's becoming increasingly difficult to separate (or even find) fact from speculation.

 

[BlueAnorak]

It’s not like this has come out of nowhere as a surprise to the government. There have been sixty-three widespread communicable disease outbreaks this century. It’s becoming increasingly common, and it was only a matter of time before one of them became a pandemic. It won’t be long into the future before another breaks out.

Every government in the world should be ready for this at all times.

It’s said by 2050 there will be 10bn humans on Earth. If governments aren’t ready, something big will come along and wipe out millions of people one day. It only takes one idiot from that 10bn to do something stupid with an animal that’s got some highly deadly and highly transmissible virus and we are in the shit!

Again, every government in the world should be prepared for this at all times. If they aren’t, not only are they inept, but they are guilty of allowing their own people to die.

I agree to some degree. Swine flu was a pandemic, as was Hong Kong Flu and Asian Flu. This virus is; however a perfect storm though as:
1. 30%-50% of those who get it never have symptoms yet are infectious.
2. Those who get ill are infectious for up to 5 days before they become ill and for up to 5 days after they think they are better.
3. It has an R0 that makes it easy to spread. 2.3 is bad enough. 5 or 6 makes it dreadful.
4. The number of people who require ventilation once ill is astonishingly high.
5. It isnt the virus that's the real killer its the body eventually waking up to the virus and releasing a cytokine storm that attacks all your major organs.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Interesting points about the R0 being a lot higher now (around 6?). Sounds awful on first glance but there was a point made on here last night that it might actually be good news (perhaps meaning a higher portion of the population are already infected with mild symptoms).
There's a few discussions on the same thing knocking around. But I genuinely do not know....it's becoming increasingly difficult to separate (or even find) fact from speculation.

the only fact is everything is one or two weeks away.

when do you think we will hit the peak - in about one or two weeks

when do you think you will be able to get testing up to your pledge - I think in about one or two weeks

when do you think we will be able to develop an exit strategy - in about one or two weeks when the scientific evidence come through

when do you think you will know if we have an effective antigen test - in about one or two weeks .