COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[grunge]

I really don't understand why we haven't had a vitamin D drive from the health service. Mass blood tests for Vitamin D deficiency and setting up appropriate supplement use by the population.
Vitamin D deficiency can't be overcome immediately, so doesn't really help folks in hospital unless they get to week 2 and day 10 is the key point in Covid-19 hospital cases.

there is a pre motabolised version that can be given in hospitals that give an instant hit thankfully.

but agreed, Vit D is cheap and easy to make so why not just really blast out the message to take it as a suplliment.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Fuck me...I nearly agree with you about something.

That said Cummings or no Cummings I think there were and are still plenty who will take little or no notice of restrictions anyway.

I very much doubt whether Cummings would have influenced the abhorrent behaviour of the likes of No lives matter and extinction rebellion either.

With out a doubt many of the normally more moderate every day kind of people I think are less inclined to take much notice of this government as a result of the Cummings fiasco. That in itself should not be a bad thing were people to use their common sense and work out for themselves how best to avoid contracting or passing on this disease. Sadly of course many have not the intelligence to do so and do not realise that by banging on about Cummings or Boris and justifying their actions on the shortcomings of the government does infact only put themselves and others in danger from this virus.

I posted this in April. I think the green arrow is now on the downward slope of disillusionment.

 

[blue for life]

I’ve worked from home for about 7 years, barring the odd project punctuated in there where I was based on site for about 18 months.

It can get to you. I’ve gone through periods where I’ve not left the house for about 3 days and it starts to affect you. I’ve learnt to always get out for a walk or run each day, another thing I do is get the windows open twice a day and get some fresh air into the place.

But yeah, it’s a struggle at times tbh.

I have worked from home since March. I am loving it to be honest and haven’t looked back. Lots more free time without the commute and can get things done at home before and after work plus at lunch. And I get out at lunch if I can.

 

[johnnytapia]

That’s just a bullshit excuse for people who really can’t be arsed following simple guidance.
Its usually children that say ‘I did it because he/she did it first’. My mother always replied ‘would you put your head in the oven if xxxx did so?’.

Adults doing the same are ducking their personal and community responsibility and, in your particular way of political point scoring, are supporting their idiocy.

I'd put my head in the oven if Nigella Lawson asked me.

 

[abu13]

We seem to have a hugely selfish and socially irresponsible society. As you say, CV19 has shone a big light on that as well.

It’s genuinely making me reconsider whether my family’s medium to long term future should be spent in this country. I am really considering my options and looking at the future in a different light.

I understand your frustrations but i feel a little different, i think initially the public did a fantastic job with the lockdown. i got the real feeling that we were all in this together. it wa when things began to open up when it unravelled, the VE day celebrations in my area were the point when it went tits up. We slso that Cummings and other political figures flaunting the rules and this seemed to impact peoples commitment. As was to be expected the more areas that opened up the more the resentment grew in those areas still shut.
And now we are being told to prepare to go through this all over again, But now we have so many mixed messages people are just demoralised and disillusioned.

 

[mayo31]

I have worked from home since March. I am loving it to be honest and haven’t looked back. Lots more free time without the commute and can get things done at home before and after work plus at lunch. And I get out at lunch if I can.

Also worked from home since March.

Hardly step foot out of the door Monday to Friday.

I have become lazy

 

[blueparrot]

Scotland data first up: Worse than ever sadly.

28 deaths

1202 cases at 6,8% positive (lowest in some time)

451 Greater Glasgow, 292 Lanarkshire, 152 Lothian, 91 Ayrshire

1117 in hospital (up 17)

85 on ventilator beds (up 3)

Still that 80% of cases in the western central belt though. The spread in the rest of Scotland seems fairly contained. Those Glasgow Lanarkshire numbers seem stuck neither rising nor falling.

 

[Healdplace]

Scotland 3 wks ago v 2 wks v last wk v today

deaths 1 v 15 v 28 v 28 today

Cases 1054 v 1429 v 1739 v 1202 today ( more evidence of the plateau of cases and the % positive fell from 9 to 6.8 over last wk too)

Patients 319 v 570 v 873 v 1117 (79% rise v 53% v 28% - more evidence that their restrictions are working to slow thw increase of cases and hospitalisations having been in place some weeks now).

Icu ventilators 28 v 49 v 73 v 85 - which shows a very visible decline in the increase week to week

 

[Healdplace]

Still that 80% of cases in the western central belt though. The spread in the rest of Scotland seems fairly contained. Those Glasgow Lanarkshire numbers seem stuck neither rising nor falling.

As you see from my week to week to week comparisons above that I post here every day - statistically it looks like the Scottish restrictions ARE working to control the spread.

 

[blueparrot]

As you see from my week to week to week comparisons above that I post here every day - statistically it looks like the Scottish restrictions ARE working to control the spread.

I know, just think if those stubburn Glasgow Lanarkshire figures would just shift downwards it would be looking a lot more positive for Scotland.

 

[mosssideblue]

I understand your frustrations but i feel a little different, i think initially the public did a fantastic job with the lockdown. i got the real feeling that we were all in this together. it wa when things began to open up when it unravelled, the VE day celebrations in my area were the point when it went tits up. We slso that Cummings and other political figures flaunting the rules and this seemed to impact peoples commitment. As was to be expected the more areas that opened up the more the resentment grew in those areas still shut.
And now we are being told to prepare to go through this all over again, But now we have so many mixed messages people are just demoralised and disillusioned.

Most are demoralised, but know right from wrong and are capable of adherence

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Apart from the example set by Cummings, and Johnson not sacking him. That started the rot on public compliance.

That says as much about the public as it does about Cummings

 

[mosssideblue]

That says as much about the public as it does about Cummings

Exactly

 

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More evidence if we needed it on the VitD side of things. 82% of hospitalisations in Spain have a VitD deficiency.

More Men had the deficiency than Women.

Good post. This will be a big reason for blacks and Asians in Great Britain, they don’t get enough sunlight. There have been a number of studies showing how an increase risk in many diseases with the darker the skin tone you have in the higher latitude you live.

Our skin colour is our skin colour through being at a certain latitude. Evolutionarily, whites aren't supposed to live where’s there’s too much heat and sunlight and blacks where there’s too little.

Saying that, how do they have a VitD deficiency in Spain, it’s fucking blazing sunshine for eight months of the year!

 

[Healdplace]

I know, just think if those stubburn Glasgow Lanarkshire figures would just shift downwards it would be looking a lot more positive for Scotland.

Biggest metro area is bound to be the hardest to stem. It is why Greater Manchester is going to be seeing thousands of cases a day now for months and sadly lots of deaths. Do not see this being turned round by the current 'restrictions' which have been seeing bonfire parties in many places weeks ahead of time 'just in case we get stopped'.

The belief that the wave will peak lower but last much longer than Spring will - if true - lead to a pretty depressing next five months. And increasing calls for a full scale lockdown. But I fear most horses bolted and headed for New Zealand quite a while back.

There may be little we can do in the absence of unexpectedly fast arrival of a a vaccine and it working as best as can possibly be hoped to protect the vulnerable.

We can sustain 70,000 cases a day all winter if all bar a tiny few are not getting more sick than a bad cold and do not need enough care to overwhelm hospitals and/or then to die in their hundreds day after day until Spring.

 

[Healdplace]

Of course, if we DO get 70,000 cases a day that is half a million a week. And 2 million a month. We are hopefully at some point at that level going to see a downturn just as most people will have had it by some point in the nearish future and - even if immunity does only last a few months - likely will not catch it again before Spring.

The North West has to be way ahead of the curve right now given the sheer size of the problem for many weeks already.

The good news (for us - but not the UK) might be we are the first out of this whilst the rest of those unlocked down areas are starting to play catch up in mid/late Winter.

The question then is - if the NW comes out of it will the policy then change to a national lockdown for all even those areas like Cornwall. Which by then might mean the North West.

 

[artfuldodger]

My sister and 2 brothers-in-law have tested positive in the last 3 days. All 3 separate households and have all caught it at work.

 

[Healdplace]

Controversy in MLB - as a baseball player finds out he has tested positive mid match in the World Series and carries on playing and celebrating with team mates afterwards.

 

[mosssideblue]

My sister and 2 brothers-in-law have tested positive in the last 3 days. All 3 separate households and have all caught it at work.

Sorry to hear that bud. Speedy recovery to them all

 

[artfuldodger]

Sorry to hear that bud. Speedy recovery to them all

Thanks. They live in Tameside, Warrington and Wolverhampton so high rate areas. 2 have been quite poorly, the other only realised when he couldn’t taste the vinegar on his chips!