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Healdplace said:
Just to clarify I am NOT attacking the list or the priorities on it. Nor the people who created it as they have actual important decisions to take as a committee about deployment of these vaccines to ensure safety within age groups.

Just found it odd the way the media are treating it as some top secret list that has been revealed as if it gives kudos to them for doing so. When anyone could have predicted what it would say.
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It's not difficult for the media to reveal it's on the website.
www.gov.uk

[Withdrawn] Priority groups for coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccination: advice from the JCVI, 25 September 2020

Interim advice from the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) on the groups that should be prioritised for vaccination, if and when a vaccine is available.
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk

As pointed out by Van Tam though and on their website the actual priorities could change depending on the information when the trials publish and possible priorites in terms of people with lots of contacts ie public facing workers if it reduces transmission as well as disease.
 
kaz7 said:
MMR has been proven safe , the crank that said it wasnt has been debuncked a hundred times , shame on him
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He has been debunked as you say but he was primarily a crook not a crank, he did the 'research' at the behest of lawyers seeking compensation for 'victims' and fiddled the results for money.
 
The Northern Baptist said:
Whenever I’m out and about during the day, it always seems to be tradesmen or site lads going into shops, petrol stations, takeaways, etc without masks on. There was 3 in the petrol station last week without a mask on.

I know when we talk about people in the building trade we are hardly talking about the brains of Britain, but fuck me.
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Your last paragraph and quoting brains of Britain is a joke and a bad reflection on your intellect. Thousands of great clever skilled lads in the building trade - majority of whom make good honest livings and significant majority make more than people with useless degrees.
 
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I struggle with people who just outright state that they won't be having a vaccine when it becomes available, I can completely understand that there may be a reluctance to have a vaccine that has not gone through the long term trials that are normally undertaken and that is a different argument altogether.

It will be good to see what any vaccine rollout program would be like, I suspect there will be travel restrictions and the like put on people who refuse the vaccine.

I can understand how people have lost all trust in Government over the last 20 - 30 years and I can't see this changing any time soon.
 
abu13 said:
I struggle with people who just outright state that they won't be having a vaccine when it becomes available, I can completely understand that there may be a reluctance to have a vaccine that has not gone through the long term trials that are normally undertaken and that is a different argument altogether.

It will be good to see what any vaccine rollout program would be like, I suspect there will be travel restrictions and the like put on people who refuse the vaccine.

I can understand how people have lost all trust in Government over the last 20 - 30 years and I can't see this changing any time soon.
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I dont recall seeing anyone post on here flatly refusing, but several (me included) wanting greater assurances of its safety before taking it
 
nellyonthewing said:
As a young kid in the 1950's we were lined up at school and everyone had the Polio jab (that bloody hurt), the Diphtheria jab, (that might be the one that left an imprint forever) the Measles jab and the TB jab.
I made it this far so stop being a load of paranoid pussies.
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Many, me included have had those same jabs, and many more - so what?
 
Regional hospital data over Sat - Sun - Mon:

LONDON Patients 984 - 983 - 1078 - big rise today (was 952 last Monday)
The peak in wave one was 4813 - so London is not even a quarter way there.

Ventilators 154 - 165 - 177 (was 142 last Monday)
The peak in wave one was 1057 - so London is even further away here at not much over a tenth there.

No question that wave 2 is having minimal impact in London - immunity from wave 1 perhaps?


MIDLANDS Patients 2226 - 2305 - 2388 (was 1854 last Monday).
The peak in wave one was 3101 - so much closer than London but further away than the other regions.

Ventilators 233 - 231 - 229 (was 197 last Monday).
The peak in wave one was 485 so well under half way there as yet.


NE/YORKS Patients 2755 - 2870 - 2999 (was 2574 last Monday) missed by 1 being the first region to pass 3000.
The peak in wave one was 2567 which they were the first region to surpass in wave 2 a week ago.

Ventilators 195. - 197 - 204 (was 167 last Monday).
The peak in wave one was 302 - so they are over two thirds on the way there. Only NW is closer.



NORTH WEST

Patients 2782 - 2855 - 2948 - (was 2787 last Monday) - so NW officially passed the number in hospital in wave 1 at the peak in April today when it passed the 2890 in hospital in April.

On the other hand NE/Yorks has overtaken the NW (just ) as having the most patients for the first time.

Ventilators 262 - 251 - 259 (was 231 last Monday) The wave one peak here was 350 so closest to there but still some way off despite having more patients in happily.
 
denislawsbackheel said:
It isn’t that simple.
A lot of people argue the opposite.
Vaccinate the young working population first for the sake of the economy and shelter the old, non productive members of society.
We have only ordered 30 million doses.
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They aren't sure yet if the vaccine prevents you from spreading the virus if you subsequently get it. The plan then is to vaccinate those at the highest risk of death and hospitalisation. This means the young working population can get back to work with a reduced risk of whatever spread occurs results in deaths and an overwhelmed NHS.
 
ayrshire_blue said:
Where do I queue for the vaccine?

Great news on this today. Hopefully more will soon follow. Even if it won't come to me straight away, if the elderly and vulnerable can be protected it might have a huge impact on the relaxation of restrictions.
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It will. And surely the over 80s and those in care homes will jump at a vaccine. Very little to lose and lots to gain.
 
Regional scoreboard is more good news for the North West!

London 2086 - UP from 1804

Midlands 2983 - UP from 2465 to second highest ever here.

North East 1340 - DOWN from 1506

Yorkshire 2805 - DOWN from 3731.


And North West 2796 - DOWN from 3077 to lowest total in over a month. And only the second below 3000 since September.

Less than Midlands AND Yorkshire again too. Just !

Starting to look a little hopeful of turning a corner.
 
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