COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[chesterbells]

Still behind Italy and Spain I believe as well as the States.

Apologies mate, I wasn’t clear; I meant deaths not cases.
Having said that, I was still wrong - just checked the JHU dashboard and were are still behind Italy for deaths (just), but ahead of Spain now.

 

[grunge]

Think the mirror have a story on this too...seeing and avalanche of people on FB saying that horrid flu cough loads had over Christmas (we had) was CV19.
But my son had the flu jab and was the only one not affected...

yeah there are loads of people I know saying the same thing but it just doesn't pan out when you check the numbers. take a look at the image I posted on the last page and point people at the data. If loads of people had it in Dec, that spike in deaths would have happened in Dec.

https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/covid-19-—-coronavirus.344314/page-3832#post-12635839

I added a link to the data source

 

[BlueAnorak]

Isn't 2-5 days before symptoms generally appear ?

Only quoting what I've read, it says 5-14 days.

Median is 5.1 days
14 days is 99% quartile
I think 2.1 days is the minimum (1% quartile)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7081172/

 

[somapop]

I think a few of us have (perhaps understandably) had these thoughts. Was a very unusual bout of flu that appeared highly contagious and with a prolonged (3-4 weeks) persistent cough. Christmas was a write off this year due to it.

 

[somapop]

See above.

yeah there are loads of people I know saying the same thing but it just doesn't pan out when you check the numbers. take a look at the image I posted on the last page and point people at the data. If loads of people had it in Dec, that spike in deaths would have happened in Dec.

https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/covid-19-—-coronavirus.344314/page-3832#post-12635839

I added a link to the data source

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Median is 5.1 days
14 days is 99% quartile
I think 2.1 days is the minimum (1% quartile)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7081172/

Which would be around the 7th. It just doesn't seem possible from what we've been shown of the illness. Not only that his children would have been passing it on as well as his wife.

 

[twosips]

I understand people want to have had it around christmas, cos that'd be great! It'd mean more would have had it... but I've still not seen any viable explanation why loads of people weren't dying around christmas then too? Why are the death tallies only what they are now? There's gonna have to be some undeniable evidence for many to take it seriously that it was around in the UK then, other than anecdotes about how everyone felt shite around flu season.

 

[cleavers]

Median is 5.1 days
14 days is 99% quartile
I think 2.1 days is the minimum (1% quartile)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7081172/

I suppose it depends how big a load you get when becoming infected, if its small its likely to take longer, and if its big less time, but if true the case in France is likely to have been created in mid December at least, a long time before it was apparently in Europe, there weren't even that many reported cases in China at that point.

The one thing we don't really know, as not enough have been tested, is how long you can asymptomatic for, most of those tested have been ill with it, once ill and tested you can measure the time that you are ill, but difficult to measure someone who isn't ill.

 

[Nightmare Walking]

Yesterday it was announced that several hospitals in southern Spain are trialing for a month an arthritic drug that reduces the immune system response that apparently is a big factor in many CV deaths.

This is the thing I don't understand. Are the immunisuppressents just for kmlatter stage Covid? I am in the most vunerable category because I am using 40mg of Prednisolone. Ored is a steroid that suppresses my immune system in the hope it will stop it attacking my digestive tract.

Do you need a healthy immune system from the off, so it can fight it off, in the hope it does not go mad? Then if it develops too much, they dampen the immune system with suppressents?

As so much money is being ploughed into fighting this virus, tne one good thing that could come out of this virus is treatments to stop the immune system going into overdrive.

 

[grunge]

See above.

Agreed on that part, there was certainly some sort of long running nasty cough doing the rounds which has caused this correlation to be doing the rounds.

I did contemplate the idea that maybe 2 strains are doing the rounds. 1 that doesn't cause Pneumonia and started a few months before or spread far quicker but what are the odds of that happening?

the conspiracy theorist part of me does think, if covid was an accidental lab leak in Wuhan, and they were investigating the pathogen origin of SARS 1, then if 1 sample leaked why not 2....