COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[gazinho]

what people really want to hear is ‘stay at home forever and we’ll pay you forever’

I can assure you now that working from home with a 9 year old and a 2 year old in the house aswell as Mrs Gaz, id bloody love to go back to work (as long as it was safe obviously)

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

I doubt the above.

(a) when the tax is considered, 80% of your gross pay = more than 80% of your net pay.
(b) many employers are making up the 20%
(c) many people had more than enough money to cover bills previously and can well stand a small drop in inome
(d) no-one's going to the pub or wherever else they may have normally frittered their money away.

So I suspect *most* people are managing fine financially. Some will not be obviously and I don't mean to gloss over any hardship, but I just thought it worth saying that I am sure most people are not struggling to cover their bills.

and some are managing more than fine. Furlough applies to private sector, public sector like teachers are on 100% pay.

if you are a Scot or Welsh they should also change the slogan to

stay home off work - get pissed - the English are paying.

 

[twosips]

With who? Who in their right mind wants to be spending what little money they have on stuff they don't need whilst being in a crowded environment?

Who in their right mind would be congaing down a street to celebrate VE at the moment? That happened. Coincidentally, that video was from Warrington, so the exact kind of person that goes to the Trafford Centre. It'd be that same lot down shopping immediately if they were given the green light, or all the people who've been visiting family anyway during this, or all the people who ignore the social distancing stuff in shops. There's tonnes about who think that this will just blow over and isn't that big a deal. The fact that the 5G stuff made the mainstream news says it all about the level of intelligence in this country. I really don't think we're any better or different to the Aussies.

 

[daztrueblue91]

and some are managing more than fine. Furlough applies to private sector, public sector like teachers are on 100% pay.

if you are a Scot or Welsh they should also change the slogan to

stay home off work - get pissed - the English are paying.

That’s because teachers have not been furloughed and are working from home. People working from home in the private sector are on 100% pay as well.

 

[lancs blue]

if you are a Scot or Welsh they should also change the slogan to

stay home off work - get pissed - the English are paying.

It was Westminster that rejected the idea that the devolved institutions be solely responsible for setting, collecting and allocating their own tax revenues.

 

[west didsblue]

and some are managing more than fine. Furlough applies to private sector, public sector like teachers are on 100% pay.

if you are a Scot or Welsh they should also change the slogan to

stay home off work - get pissed - the English are paying.

You’re about the third or fourth I’ve seen with this xenophobic attitude to the other nations of the UK. Coincidentally (or maybe not), all outspoken Brexiteers who seem to exude English exceptionalism.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

That’s because teachers have not been furloughed and are working from home. People working from home in the private sector are on 100% pay as well.

the point is not what teachers do it’s about whether people are struggling or not.

public sector workers are on 100% pay

Furloughed private sector workers are on 80% pay ( some being topped up to 100%)

the level of protection from the state is sufficient to say people are not on suffering as a consequence of the state , relative to where they were before.

indeed you could argue it’s a generous impediment to people returning to work.

 

[Phil1]

You’re about the third or fourth I’ve seen with this xenophobic attitude to the other nations of the UK. Coincidentally (or maybe not), all outspoken Brexiteers who seem to exude English exceptionalism.

The idea that the Scottish and Welsh are happy to sit home whilst the proud English go out to save the economy is one that all the rabid patriots can get behind.
Not necessarily KHW, but plenty of others.

 

[Blue Hefner]

Who in their right mind would be congaing down a street to celebrate VE at the moment? That happened. Coincidentally, that video was from Warrington, so the exact kind of person that goes to the Trafford Centre. It'd be that same lot down shopping immediately if they were given the green light, or all the people who've been visiting family anyway during this, or all the people who ignore the social distancing stuff in shops. There's tonnes about who think that this will just blow over and isn't that big a deal. The fact that the 5G stuff made the mainstream news says it all about the level of intelligence in this country. I really don't think we're any better or different to the Aussies.

There is that.......

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

You’re about the third or fourth I’ve seen with this xenophobic attitude to the other nations of the UK. Coincidentally (or maybe not), all outspoken Brexiteers who seem to exude English exceptionalism.

there is nothing xenophobic about it whatsoever , stop it with your racist, xenophobic shite and think for a moment instead of jumping I with a boring lazy argument

it’s simple common sense .

if you have devolved administrations telling people to stay home and not go back to work absolutely fine no problem good for them, it’s a devolved power, do as you like

however if the English are told to go back to work now so not therefore relying on furlough scheme any longer it seems wrong doesn’t it .

The devolved powers should be free to extend the stay at home if they like but they should not rely on the central pot to pay for it. That cost should fall on the devolved administrations as well. It’s hardly a difficult concept.

as Spider-Man’s dad said. With great power comes responsibility.