COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[urban genie]

ah we’ll, another thread gone to the fucking political point scoring bollocks.

It hasn't though, it has been informative, why not call out the 2-3 posters doing it rathr than lament the thread

 

[PragueBlue]

No it isn’t.
The CSO, Patrick Vallance, said ideally 60% would get it.
The Chief Medical Officer, Chris Whitty, hasn’t put a figure on it.
You’re talking shit as usual.

I’ll retract if you provide a link to prove me wrong.

I think Merkel said similar for Germany as well. About 70%.

 

[urban genie]

The whole worlds facing an economy hit, there’s no getting around it. Everything will change in a few weeks when the deaths get out of hand and we’ve got the most deaths behind China.

Exactly people come first, any government that puts economy or reputation first is a disgrace.

And some worldwide are

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Yes that’s all part of the negotiations. I read the other day that the remedy for Ebola was developed by research teams in collaboration across different parts of the World. Including UK researchers playing a leading role.

The containment strategies being followed by all the Countries indicates that any antidote is going to take several months to develop and implement.

UK research labs are very well respected in pharma, but the funding comes from big pharma companies - they will be racing cooperatively at the moment, and I would expect them to be passing info to each other as they go.

It's definitely months. Trump was told this by the pharma execs on camera a couple of weeks back. They said about a year, as it will need testing first.

It will be being used in a highly unusual manner too - it normally takes about 13 years to get a normal drug from patent to market - an antibody to a known virus is probably a bit quicker than that, but normal FDA testing is measured in years not months. This won't be.

 

[malg]

It hasn't though, it has been informative, why not call out the 2-3 posters doing it rathr than lament the thread

I don’t want to get dragged into the bollocks.

This was a very informative thread, but it’s now degenerating.

 

[blue44]

Exactly people come first, any government that puts economy or reputation first is a disgrace.

And some worldwide are

this all day fucking long !

arguing is just pointless with some people

there is a storm coming,and its going to be awful

be nice to each other people.

 

[Len Rum]

No it isn’t.
The CSO, Patrick Vallance, said ideally 60% would get it.
The Chief Medical Officer, Chris Whitty, hasn’t put a figure on it.
You’re talking shit as usual.
I’ll retract if you provide a link to prove me wrong.

Good luck with that mate.
George is a bit of a slippery customer when it comes to the actualité.
@George Hannah

 

[SWP's back]

Just looking now: Germany 4100 cases 8 deaths. UK 1,100 cases 21 deaths.
I appreciate we aren’t doing a lot of testing here, but regardless of that, the difference in mortality looks significant.

I’ve read on here that Germany aren’t counting deaths where there were underlying medical issues.

 

[DenisLawBackHeel74]

we have no facility to make vaccines in the uk.
We import everything.

that’s not true.

there is a very large UK vaccine production site in Speke.

 

[BosnianBlue]

it’s not really how Big Pharma do business though. They like the big bucks to be agreed before their products are distributed.

yep, that's why there is no vaccine for sars or mers, those financing science weren't too interested.

 

[Chippy_boy]

The whole worlds facing an economy hit, there’s no getting around it. Everything will change in a few weeks when the deaths get out of hand and we’ve got the most deaths behind China.

If that happens, given we were behind Italy, France, Germany, Spain etc in terms of how quickly this has spread, and we had a golden opportunity to learn from the mistakes and learnings of others, then it will be not only a tragedy, but also a travesty. And genuinely, unless things change dramatically, I think that's where we are headed. Due to our own stupidity, I think we may very well be hit by this more than any other major nation (proportionally). And I am getting ahead of myself but if that does come to pass, some very senior people need to go jail.

 

[PragueBlue]

Exactly people come first, any government that puts economy or reputation first is a disgrace.

Of course people come first but the economy is vital for people as well. Companies close, jobs are lost, people lose their houses, can't feed their families etc. That is why it is such a delicate balancing act - trying to minimise damage to the economy while keeping people safe.

 

[chesterbells]

I’ve read on here that Germany aren’t counting deaths where there were underlying medical issues.

cheers, hadn’t picked up on that.

 

[SebastianBlue]

I’ve read on here that Germany aren’t counting deaths where there were underlying medical issues.

@St.Pauli support could you quickly confirm to save all of us the trouble of searching the internet? ;-)

 

[Manchester_lalala]

If that happens, given we were behind Italy, France, Germany, Spain etc in terms of how quickly this has spread, and we had a golden opportunity to learn from the mistakes and learnings of others, then it will be not only a tragedy, but also a travesty. And genuinely, unless things change dramatically, I think that's where we are headed. Due to our own stupidity, I think we may very well be hit by this more than any other major nation (proportionally). And I am getting ahead of myself but if that does come to pass, some very senior people need to go jail.

The two experts for starters.

 

[PragueBlue]

that’s not true.

there is a very large UK vaccine production site in Speke.

I thought you were arguing with yourself for a minute then!!

 

[urban genie]

I don’t want to get dragged into the bollocks.

This was a very informative thread, but it’s now degenerating.

I agree

 

[Tim of the Oak]

UK research labs are very well respected in pharma, but the funding comes from big pharma companies - they will be racing cooperatively at the moment, and I would expect them to be passing info to each other as they go.

It's definitely months. Trump was told this by the pharma execs on camera a couple of weeks back. They said about a year, as it will need testing first.

It will be being used in a highly unusual manner too - it normally takes about 13 years to get a normal drug from patent to market - an antibody to a known virus is probably a bit quicker than that, but normal FDA testing is measured in years not months. This won't be.

The Givernmdnt is rushing through legislation to support efforts to combat the virus.

 

[blueparrot]

I’ve read on here that Germany aren’t counting deaths where there were underlying medical issues.

Wont say any more than this, I know one uk death counted was very little to do with the virus and the deceased would have died within a very short period regardless. If the Germans are disregarding such deaths it would make sense of the different figures.

 

[urban genie]

Of course people come first but the economy is vital for people as well. Companies close, jobs are lost, people lose their houses, can't feed their families etc. That is why it is such a delicate balancing act - trying to minimise damage to the economy while keeping people safe.

Agreed but as many other governments ar edoingwe can support those businesses.

After all this is a global crisis and everyone wil work together to make sure economicaly we all survive this.

Going lone wolf will noy be met favourable in the aftermath