COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[sky tot]

Fuck knows mate.

Im on a golf trip in the north east a week on Saturday.

Im 100% going still.

It’s Romiley golf club Captains weekend this weekend, my mate is worried it might get cancelled.

 

[twosips]

I don't do twitter, and wouldn't follow Hancock even if I did, so I took what was reported, and it was definitely reported in the "breaking news", I thought it was utterly ludicrous when I read it, that you can meet in a crowded beer garden, or park, but not in a quiet garden.

fair enough, but you can't blame people for seeing Hancock's official twitter account saying 'indoors' and thus therefore thinking its only indoors. Shambolic.

 

[kaz7]

Finally at half past eleven newsnight have had it clarified,all settings,indoors and gardens,pubs etc included

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Newsnight report on this was interesting as it showed what happened in Leicester - where it has more than halved the cases over several weeks (as I noted earlier tonight with the numbers) and they seem to be having their lockdown eased to the same level as GM.

But throughout the lockdown both deaths and patients being admitted into hospital with Covid fell on the same slow decline that they have continued to do everywhere. There was zero consequence to the rise in cases in Leicester from these even weeks later.

They seemed baffled but I suspect the same thing will happen in GM too. Indeed the hospital data I reported earlier shows the increase in cases has not (as yet) resulted in any increase in hospitalisation or deaths.

Yes, it early days, and hospitalisation follows testing positive by maybe a week or so and death may follow by several weeks So it might happen in weeks to come.

But it hasn't even after those weeks in Leicester whilst they have slowly gotten case numbers down.

My guess is that case numbers are rising amongst the young and 'invulnerable' and most of them will not get sick enough to need hospital thankfully. And the most vulnerable have got used to lockdown and will still be self isolating even if technically they are told they do not need to.

So we may see spikes in cases but not to any big degree ones in serious illness or deaths.

May not happen like that. But if it does this may just be anther step in the never really abandoned herd immunity policy some doctors have had. Let the young all catch it and build immunity whilst you protect the elderly through fear and separation from the young.

Maybe why trying to keep the young away from the old (even within families) is not as silly a policy as right now it looks if we think of the 'lockdown' as seeming only to suggest doing that by default.

I’ve been part of a research trial regarding antibodies through work. There are 6500 people working across the country and we are having the serology tests, being expanded across the workforce every week, with well over 2500 tests thus far. The number coming back, consistently every week, is 17% showing antibodies. The workforce is pretty diverse so that 17% suggests that 12 million might have had it, across the UK. Then, bearing in mind 25% of people who’ve had this don’t have antibodies following COVID, that could mean that another 3 million may have had it.

 

[cleavers]

Just confirmed on Newsnight. No mixing households IN pubs or other indoor venues.

This strategy is all about keeping the young and brave and foolish away from the old and vulnerable even if they are related.

It makes sense. Because one has a much much higher consequence to getting infected.

So my example of a visit early next week, we're coming up and staying in Glossop for 2 nights (parents live there not seen them since Feb), and then we were meeting my son and his GF on Tuesday evening in the City Centre (not seen them since the LC final).

So just (this evening) booked a meal in Albert Square. This is now off it seems, but they can still jump on the train and come to Glossop for a meal with us.

It's a ludicrous situation.

 

[Ban-jani]

It’s Romiley golf club Captains weekend this weekend, my mate is worried it might get cancelled.

Shouldn’t do it’s outside.

We’re all staying over though, for that trip.

 

[Tugay One Cup]

I know it doesn't take much but I am utterly confused.

This whole thing has been communicated so poorly since the start of the initial lockdown.

 

[BimboBob]

I’ve been part of a research trial regarding antibodies through work. There are 6500 people working across the country and we are having the serology tests, being expanded across the workforce every week, with well over 2500 tests thus far. The number coming back, consistently every week, is 17% showing antibodies. The workforce is pretty diverse so that 17% suggests that 12 million might have had it, across the UK. Then, bearing in mind 25% of people who’ve had this don’t have antibodies following COVID, that could mean that another 3 million may have had it.

I have an antibody test to do tomorrow. Can't do it today as I'm on the scotch.

Random selection apparently. If it shows antibodies what does that mean?

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

It’s Romiley golf club Captains weekend this weekend, my mate is worried it might get cancelled.

Play it at Disley golf club. Everyone can meet up in the bar afterwards and it’s only 6 miles away....

 

[Ban-jani]

So you can visit. You are one bubble. So is she. Sorted. Maximum of 2 households.

Eh?

Two households cannot meet.