I have already discussed this throughout the thread, mate. I was one of those saying they would be changing strategy as soon as ‘herd immunity’ was casually mentioned.
The above post you have quoted was a joke about the mods implementing measures to flatten the curve of this thread going mental. ;-)
I agree with you. However, if the virus mutated to a worse form before the herd has some sort of immunity to the current form, then we as a species are in trouble. Fortunately evolution tends to make viruses mutate to forms with a higher R0 but lower mortality but only because killing the host tends to kill the virus.Where do you get the idea from that it will mutate into something worse?
It's already mutated, in fact, viruses are pretty much constantly mutating, however the actual more likely outcome is that once people have recovered from the current strain they will have at least some form of immunity against any new mutation. Even if it's only partial immunity this would mean that the disease would more than likely be less serious than previously.
Why do some feel the need to try to scare people even more in what is already a pretty scary situation?
Based off everything I've read both in here and online, it seems like we're absolutely fucked either we approach this, aren't we?
Can you explain why it's so important? Sincere question. I don't understand these things.
45 minutes ago I was with you, panicking a fair bit from the headlines coming out of the report, but having read it all the way through it's not as bad as initially made out.
Looking that way. As I wrote earlier, when we’re all in the same boat long term, whatever we did short term won’t seem to matter so much.Based off everything I've read both in here and online, it seems like we're absolutely fucked either we approach this, aren't we?
Based off everything I've read both in here and online, it seems like we're absolutely fucked either we approach this, aren't we?
I agree about the last part of the paragraph being relevant regarding full lockdown — I highlighted that in an earlier post reviewing the report and pulling a few of the most relevant graphs from it, including the one you reference. I was only bolding in my response to your post to highlight relevance to the “orange” line strategy.Ooh, you just replied before I added the zoomed in graph.
Yes that paragraph is interesting, although I think the most interesting bit for people on here who want immediate and total lockdown is actually everything after the bit you bolded - why lockdown won't work.
They've pretty much said China is going to have to be under complete quarantine for 18 months.
Not at all mate. Just ignore the government and their team of scientific advisors and follow the direction of the completely unqualified footie fans on this forum and we'll all be absolutely fine.
Based off everything I've read both in here and online, it seems like we're absolutely fucked either we approach this, aren't we?
It does seem that way. The NHS is cracking already and this is the calm before the storm. I get so stressed thinking about the next 2-3 weeks and beyond. And it’s maybe 18 months until we can make steps to restoring society.Based off everything I've read both in here and online, it seems like we're absolutely fucked either we approach this, aren't we?
Yes, I think most are now at the same speed....so rather than me wading through the thread are we all up to speed on the change in strategy from mitigation to suppression and the fact that the mitigation modelling was not consistent with the symptoms presented by this virus?
That's my take on it too. The immediate future looks grim. If we don't die, no social interaction, for many work or money, holidays, hobbies or pastetimes for a good eighteen months. That isn't sustainable and society will break down.
Based off everything I've read both in here and online, it seems like we're absolutely fucked either we approach this, aren't we?
Tbh mate, I don't get how an 18 month suppression is anything other than bleak apocalyptic shit. Please reassure me if you feel differently!
That is definitely one of my concerns, as well. Especially as most behavioural science findings I have seen show that with each switch of the “on/off” toggle in similar situations, fewer people follow the guidance with less general adherence to the tenets of the guidance.Hard to find anything positive in the report but the numbers for switching on and off the suppression did offer a glimmer if it could be managed and sustained long enough. My thoughts are how do you convince people its ok to go back and then tell them to stop a few days later? I don't think it would be manageable.
That's my take on it too. The immediate future looks grim. If we don't die, no social interaction, for many work or money, holidays, hobbies or pastetimes for a good eighteen months. That isn't sustainable and society will break down.
Exactly. When the people that are supposed to calm you make you feel like there’s no hope, you know it’s bleak.It is the government's team of scientific advisors that have made me feel this way over the past couple of hours tbh mate.
Well I suppose I'm coming from the angle where 2 hours ago people were posting everywhere that they were predicting 550,000 deaths in the UK and after reading the report that was never on the cards at all, and the full implementation of things the government has already said it will bring in will mean 7,000-12,000 deaths which is tragic but not world altering.