COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[St.Pauli support]

German partly lockdown from 2-30 November (nationwide!):

We cannot anymore identify where infections happen for 75% of new cases,
therefore we want to reduce 75% of all contacts,
in order to keep
- economy, shops, hairdressers, schools and kindergarten open.

New restrictions:
- max 10 person may meet from not more than 2 households, in- and outdoors.
- hospitality all closed, food delivery only
- cultural activities like theaters all closed, also gyms and amateur sports
- professional sports only without any fans
- parties (also at home) are unacceptable
- touristic travel is unwelcome
- domestic overnight stay only allowed on a private basis
(- religious services may be held)

 

[kaz7]

Possibly local lockdowns but with more restrictions than now to try and limit numbers in hospitals. IMO we cant keep doing national lockdowns for ever in the hope of a vaccine sometime that may or may not work for some of the population, the flu vaccine doesn't work for all, pretty sure that the majority of scientists I have read or heard have said people shouldn't expect any vaccine to be a silver bullet for that very reason.

Perhaps we need to start putting better measures in to protect the elderly and vulnerable, but if im honest im not sure that can be achieved. The risk to the young and healthy is very low perhaps we need to just let them get on with their lives? I don't think even the current situation is sustainable economically or socially for another 6 months let alone 9 or 12 months and more national lockdowns just delay the inevitable as I think we are are going to get this virus sooner rather than later as its running rampant thru every European country. No politician wants to make these calls, but I think we have some very hard decisions to make in the coming months. I also think for that very reason we should be bringing other political parties into the decision making and inviting Starmer, Sturgeon etc into the cabinet.

The whole point is delaying it , to protect the nhs in winter and get through to spring , preventing 1,000 people dying every day

Again i say the vulnerable include large swaths of the very people looking after us , they cannot be protected , it is the most meaningness thing said on here, it is not practical

The young and fit can catch and spread it , that is the clearest thing we know , they have to be part of the solution not allowed to just get on with their lives , they are a big part of the jigsaw, we are all in this together

 

[mcfc1632]

Not a delicate decision in my book.
94 years of age. He's coming for christmas. End of.
Any objections to be filed in the uncompassionate twat bin of uncompassionateless twats.
Enjoy your xmas mate

Yeah - spot on - I was only being politically correct on a forum when suggesting that I might not go and get him

I am so lucky that he has all of his faculties - sharp as a needle and physically active.

But I saw a deterioration after the spring lockdown and I will not risk a repeat

 

[blue for life]

Not messing about in Germany although I presume football will be immune as usual!

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

The whole point is delaying it , to protect the nhs in winter and get through to spring , preventing 1,000 people dying every day

Again i say the vulnerable include large swaths of the very people looking after us , they cannot be protected , it is the most meaningness thing said on here, it is not practical

The young and fit can catch and spread it , that is the clearest thing we know , they have to be part of the solution not allowed to just get on with their lives , they are a big part of the jigsaw, we are all in this together

We are all going to get this virus sooner or later so why not let those least at risk get on with their lives while doing more to protect the vulnerable. I repeat what we are doing isn't sustainable for another 6-12 months. If we want a future for our children very hard decisions are going to have to be made im afraid Kaz

 

[Healdplace]

GM highlights:

Total is slightly down from yesterdays record but only by 77 to 2529 and that is actually up to 51% of the NW total.

GM is contributing almost half as many cases again as it did 10 days/two weeks ago during the argument over entering tier 3 whilst Merseyside's numbers since accepting have continued to fall.

Hopefully the numbers will turn round in GM too as they need to do.

Today (other than Birmingham with 548 - which is pro rata to Manchester a good number (pop score up just 48 proves that) Manchester had the most cases in the UK (pop score up 80) . Even beating Bradford which has been pulling in big numbers and tops the UK red watch list.

But Manchester was not alone. Stockport is showing worrying signs of going the way of Wigan and today had yet another record number of cases.

GM also had three boroughs above 300 today and only 3 sub 200. The usual good boroughs bar Stockport.

Trafford had a pretty good day and made up lots of pop score points on Stockport and may actually now be very close to having the best Weekly Pop score in GM knocking Stockport off a perch it has been on for months.

If I see Elise I will ask why this is happening. Hopefully she has been made aware.

 

[mosssideblue]

We are all going to get this virus sooner or later so why not let those least at risk get on with their lives while doing more to protect the vulnerable. I repeat what we are doing isn't sustainable for another 6-12 months. If we want a future for our children very hard decisions are going to have to be made im afraid Kaz

How do you intend to protect the vulnerable exactly!

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

It is winter and a lot of it closes , it is used to being quieter ,in and out for work and business but nothing else, it is doable for two or three weeks

How on earth could that be enforced when there's thousands of journeys to and fro every day ?Let alone railway commuters. In reality it's just not workable. Probably for the same reasons other borders haven't been closed within the UK.
Also I'd imagine that the tourist industry would argue strongly about the idea that it's only partially open during winter.

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[Deleted member 77198]

I'm not sure about that one mate, it's science. But yeah, i'll stick my neck out and say that vitamin d wont pass through glass. I'm probably wrong, it has been known lol

It’s the UVB rays which don’t pass through glass. When our skin is in direct sunlight, the UVB rays hit the skin and triggers a reaction which converts a type of cholesterol in our skin into Vitamin D3.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

German partly lockdown from 2-30 November (nationwide!):

We cannot anymore identify where infections happen for 75% of new cases,
therefore we want to reduce 75% of all contacts,
in order to keep
- economy, shops, hairdressers, schools and kindergarten open.

New restrictions:
- max 10 person may meet from not more than 2 households, in- and outdoors.
- hospitality all closed, food delivery only
- cultural activities like theaters all closed, also gyms and amateur sports
- professional sports only without any fans
- parties (also at home) are unacceptable
- touristic travel is unwelcome
- domestic overnight stay only allowed on a private basis
(- religious services may be held)

How has the country reacted to that? Anger, or acceptance that something is needed?