COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[shemnel]

I’m not too sure on your point about fans in grounds mate. New Zealand and Australia are the only Countries I’ve seen packed stadia (for rugby) and most other places have heavily restricted attendances eg Dortmund operating at one eight of capacity. Other European Countries are letting in similar crowds to what we are doing for non League games.

From Rome to Rio: where fans are back in stadiums and where they are barred

A look at what is allowed in mainland Europe’s major leagues and selected other countries amid the coronavirus crisis

www.theguardian.com

yeah i think my point is that in those countries they had no ban on meeting indoors (restricted to 6 or 10 or something) and ~15% capacity at footy grounds, and according to my german pals their cafe culture sort of carried on of sorts, so they were doing stuff. So stuff was happening but their second peaks seem more 'flashy' so far despite being more active socially.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

Their governments behave better?

True. I advocate personal responsibility though.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Their governments behave better?

Our leaders haven't handled Covid well,thats undisputable,with confusion and contradiction being their party trick.However,the irresponsibility and shear stupidity factor falls predominantly at the feet of the entitled,arrogant,and selfish,morons that reside in this country.

 

[artfuldodger]

this stuff about Germany, Netherlands and Belgium all of a sudden being on the other side of the second peak, it's so confusing to me.

If you balance on one side that the UK, public and government combined, haven't performed collectively well in the face of adversity, and on the other the fact that a lot of these countries have never banned meeting indoors and even have sporting events on (though not always), it's hard to fathom. France are similar to us.

Maybe, when cases rise rapidly and appear to be beyond control, restrictions have limited effect, and the virus will do what it does. Rapid rise, then a fall. We are pretty much the only country to have banned meeting indoors for months on end in some parts on the uk, with the argument that’s is the area of most risk. But it doesn’t seem to make much difference.

 

[mosssideblue]

Maybe, when cases rise rapidly and appear to be beyond control, restrictions have limited effect, and the virus will do what it does. Rapid rise, then a fall. We are pretty much the only country to have banned meeting indoors for months on end in some parts on the uk, with the argument that’s is the area of most risk. But it doesn’t seem to make much difference.

Hard to prove but I suspect there are still far too many still meeting indoors.

 

[shemnel]

Maybe, when cases rise rapidly and appear to be beyond control, restrictions have limited effect, and the virus will do what it does. Rapid rise, then a fall. We are pretty much the only country to have banned meeting indoors for months on end in some parts on the uk, with the argument that’s is the area of most risk. But it doesn’t seem to make much difference.

i agree, i think this is a huge contradiction - that banning people meeting indoors does very very little.

 

[shemnel]

very interesting food for thought;



(in her last sentence she means dotted orange line)

 

[FantasyIreland]

True. I advocate personal responsibility though.

Unfortunately,by a large percentage,that basic requirement,and life skill, was abandoned a few years back.

Its always someone else's fault.......

 

[artfuldodger]

Hard to prove but I suspect there are still far too many still meeting indoors.

I agree. But even if only 50% are not meeting indoors, it’s likely to be more than countries where it’s allowed. You would think there would be a marked difference.

 

[artfuldodger]

i agree, i think this is a huge contradiction - that banning people meeting indoors does very very little.

Only anecdotal I appreciate, but the 5 unrelated people I know who have had it, got it from work. And in only of those cases did the rest of the family get it.