COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Imagine his reaction if someone posted a simulation where 10k people died worldwide over a 4 month period and then it went away. You'd be getting called all sorts.

That 'interesting' article is based on a purely made up scenario and is just as relevant to the current situation as the people comparing it to flu, who he has criticised at every opportunity.
Oh do fuck off and stop talking shite.

If you can’t see how others may find an article from 2018 interesting and on topic then do me a favour and block me so I don’t have to waste my time replying to your idiotic posts.

This is where the model is from, The Institute for Disease Modelling:

http://idmod.org/news/node/132

if you wish to post any peer reviewed simulations that shows a global pandemic with similar R0’s and fatality rates only killing 10,000 and sodding off after four months, then be my guest.

That’s the difference between my posts and your shit hypotheticals. My posts are based on the reality from experts in their field. They’re not my own pessimistic musings. Unlike your happy clappy, it’ll probably be ok when it warms up a bit, fact denying nonsense.
 
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My wife's mate who lives in Milan just text saying they've been told not to leave home unless it's to the supermarket. She's been housebound with her boyfriend and baby since Feb 21st. Her boyfriend has a business and is worried it's going go under. I hope this government gets it right.
 
I wonder what Spanish Flu's mortality rate would be like in 2020 with modern standards of living and healthcare and without WW1 going on.
It would likely be lower due to higher standards of living and healthcare... if there was coordinated global response which was based on scientific guidance and was implemented well.

The timing of Spanish Flu outbreak certainly contributed to the severity (as you allude to, it was aided by one of the first truly global simultaneous mass migrations) but global travel volume is much, much higher now, to many, many more population centres, so in that way it would be a ‘negative’ driver.
 
My wife's mate who lives in Milan just text saying they've been told not to leave home unless it's to the supermarket. She's been housebound with her boyfriend and baby since Feb 21st. Her boyfriend has a business and is worried it's going go under. I hope this government gets it right.

I was in Milan for the Atalanta match. The peoole whose apartment we rented have sent a request for help. Asking us to buy products like cheese

However seeing as I spent one night in a cell I felt they may have already had a gift from me.
 
I was in Milan for the Atalanta match. The peoole whose apartment we rented have sent a request for help. Asking us to buy products like cheese

However seeing as I spent one night in a cell I felt they may have already had a gift from me.
here's hoping this all sorts itself out soon although I'm not optimistic and I've started getting supplies in now to sit it out.
 
Just got this sent to me from a mate. I can't verify it but there would appear at least to be some good advice in here. To me, it does sound plausible but i'm not medically trained. I was in two minds whether to post it but feel it may have some advice that can help people at the very least.

From a member of the Stanford Hospital Board. This is their feedback for now on COVID-19.

The new Coronavirus may not show signs of infection for many days. How can one know if he/ she is infected? By the time they have fever and/or a cough and go to the hospital, the lung is usually 50% infected Fibrosis which is extremely concerning.

Taiwan experts provide a simple self-check that we can do every morning. Take a deep breath and hold your your breath for more than 10 seconds. If you complete it successfully without coughing, without discomfort, stiffness or tightness, etc., it proves there is no Fibrosis in the lungs, basically indicates no infection.

Serious excellent advice by Japanese doctors treating COVID-19 cases: Everyone should ensure your mouth and throat are moist, never dry. Take a few sips of water every 15 minutes at least. Why? Even if the virus gets into your mouth, drinking water or liquids will wash them down your throat and into the stomach. Once there, your stomach acid will kill all of the virus. If you don't drink enough water more regularly, the virus can enter your windpipe and into the lungs. This is very dangerous.

1. If you have a runny nose and sputumm, you have a common cold.
2. Coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough with no runny nose.
3. This new virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed by a temperature of just 26/27 degrees
4. If someone sneezes with it, it takes about 10 feet before it drops to the ground and is no longer airborne.
5. If it drops on a metal surface it will live for at least 12 hours - so if you come into contact with any metal surface - wash your hands as soon as you can with anti-bacterial soap.
6. On fabric, it can survive for 6-12 hours Normal laundry detergent will kill it.
7. Drinking warm water is effective for all viruses. Try not to drink liquids with ice.
8. Wash your hands frequently as the virus can only live on your hands for 5-10 minutes, but - a lot can happen during that time - you can rub your eyes, pick your nose unwittingly and so on.
9. You should also gargle as a prevention. A simple solution of salt in warm water will suffice.
10. Can't emphasis enough - drink plenty of water!

The Symptoms (for worst case scenarious)

1. It will first infect the throat, so you'll have a sore throat lasting 3/4 days.
2. The virus then blends into a nasal fluid that enters the trachea and then the lungs, causing pneumonia. This takes about 5/6 days further.
3. With the pneumonia comes high fever and difficulty in breathing.
4. The nasal congestion is not like the normal kind. You feel like you're drowning. It's imperative that you seek immediate attention.

not sure about those temperature ranges from what I’ve read - bit more data on the virus released a short while ago from U.S studies - 24 hours on cardboard! That makes supermarkets packaging dodgy with the amount of people that pick em up and put them back.

 
So forgive me if I’m wrong. Once you have the virus and develop antibodies for it, you’ll become immune to it?
Having had the virus you could become a sleeping time bomb (when ever you have a cold, sneezes or coughs this virus will always be in your system).
My thoughts are, unless a vaccine is found this virus will keep coming back until everyone has been infected.

Something like the Spanish/ Dutch/ British and Portugués voyages in the 15th 16th centuries?
 
not sure about those temperature ranges from what I’ve read - bit more data on the virus released a short while ago from U.S studies - 24 hours on cardboard! That makes supermarkets packaging dodgy with the amount of people that pick em up and put them back.


Just saw that.

The fact that the NIH were testing aerosol transmission, and found some evidence that is possible (guidance has been shifting back and forth on this for months), is very concerning given that increases the probability of transmission in dense population centres.

For this study, researchers used a nebulizer device to put samples of the new virus into the air, imitating what might happen if an infected person coughed or made the virus airborne some other way.

They found that viable virus could be detected up to three hours later in the air, up to four hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to two to three days on plastic and stainless steel.

Just more reason to continue to take reasonable measures to optimise personal hygiene and isolate as you are able.
 
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