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KnaresboroughBlue said:
I wonder if we're actually using the malaria and HIV medication that early trials seem to be suggesting are effecting against the virus. Trump is going on about it now but the Australians and French (amongst others) have also been doing testing with those drugs that looks promising. Not sure where they are manufactured or what supplies of them with have in the UK but if the results continue to look good, every country will be after them.
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Hiv meds are expensive I believe, hope this is changed!
 
domalino said:
Sorry Karen but you're spreading lies and conspiracy bullshit and it's the opposite of helpful.

Someone spreading rumours that the death toll is secretly much higher because people in care homes are dropping dead 1 day after a sore throat is the last thing we need.
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Where has this stuff about a sore throat come in? It's not one of the symptoms of the virus
 
Gelsons Dad said:
very important to not look at single day values. Multi -week trends are more useful.
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Yes fair enough, just all very difficult at the moment. On the one hand you almost have to take things one day at a time and yet on the other it's all about the long game.
I think like a lot of people I just need a positive to cling to. Somewhere. Anywhere!
 
Does Trump read Bluemoon? I posted this a week ago. He's just made a big deal about this anti-viral in his press conference.

In my quote, I made an error. I didn't realise SARS - CoV-2 was Cov19. It is one and the same. Naming conventions.
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Marvin said:
I was reading the medical literature today about coronavirus and came across a paper by yao et al, 2020 who have just published a study that suggests that an existing anti-arthritis / anti-malarial treatment (Hydroxychloroquine) maybe effective against coronavirus. The paper is titled In Vitro Antiviral Activity and Projection of Optimized Dosing Design of Hydroxychloroquine for the Treatment of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2). I know it relates to another coronavirus but I have seen comments that it maybe effective against Covid19.

Something to think about if you are an arthritis sufferer or your parents are but you'd have to go through your GP as this is not available over the counter.

It is not a vaccine but this paper suggests it maybe of use as an anti-viral treatment. Note though that this is a test-tube study and not a human trial however we already know the drug has been deemed safe for arthritis patients (subject to some side effects which maybe important for some people).

I post this hoping you will treat the information with caution, but interest. So far much of the news about Covid19 has been how a vaccine is 12 months away, but there are anti-viral treatments that I have heard are being used.
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KnaresboroughBlue said:
I wonder if we're actually using the malaria and HIV medication that early trials seem to be suggesting are effecting against the virus. Trump is going on about it now but the Australians and French (amongst others) have also been doing testing with those drugs that looks promising. Not sure where they are manufactured or what supplies of them with have in the UK but if the results continue to look good, every country will be after them.
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3 weeks ago the govenment blocked the export of several drugs including Chroloquinine (the malaria drug) and lopinavir + ritonavir (the HIV drugs) to maintain our supplies and presumably if we were exporting them, we also manufacture them.

https://ihsmarkit.com/research-anal...port-of-two-covid19-treatment-candidates.html
 
Scottyboi said:
So what's being said I's that someone in a care home with a pre existing condition, gets a sore throat dies the next day and their cause of death is put down as their existing conditions?
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Well if they get a sore throat and die the next day cause of death will have been their pre existing condition. If they deteriorate over a few days and show symptoms I'd expect they would be tested. For example I know of one case where the patient was taken to hospital with other conditions and was tested on arrival, they had Corona but died of the condition they were admitted with a few days later this was counted as a corona death , where really they were critical without it.
 
With regards to care homes, admittedly this is only 1 example but I bumped into a guy I know walking the dog last Sunday who is in his 70s. His brother is in Gorton Parks care home and the day before he got a letter saying that they were in lockdown and no visitors were allowed due to 2 people having contracted Covid-19 - 1 staff member and 1 patient.
 
karen7 said:
I do believe the death figures are higher,there is as i said a lot of grey area with care homes etc,just my opinion ,nothing based in fact although nicola stergeon thinks the numbers are underestimated
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Yes I thought so. In fact I said so ;-)
 
Gelsons Dad said:
And just to add, it's clear from this thread that there are many people who's health and well-being is suffering as a consequence of the fear and anxiety brought about by this crisis. It's unfathomable to me why someone with a background in healthcare would knowing add to the trouble. I would have expected the opposite.
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I said something a week or 2 ago,someone tagged me today so i had to clarify what i said before,dom added a whole novel to what i actually said,i am not saying anything to alarm anyone,it was a comment about the testing and recording of patients who had exsisting chest conditions in a specific setting and not scaremongering ,there is NO way i am doing anything else,in this thread i have posted facts from sky news with my own experience as having tested positive and being ill,it is a pity the usual 2/3 people who don't like me have piled in
Move along and pm me if you want to continue
 
KnaresboroughBlue said:
New cases and deaths in the Uk up but lower than I expected.
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New cases is now simply a measure of how many people have:
1. Contacted 111 due to being at risk and have reported symptoms and have subsequently tested positive; - OR -
2. Have contacted 999 due to having breathing difficulties and have subsequently tested positive.

This equates to about 8% (plucking a guestimate figure out of the air) of actual new cases, so multiply new cases by 100 and divide by 8 to get a rough guide to the number of actual new cases.

That's 825 based on the reported rise of 66 on Wednesday. [ EDIT: This figure is actually to 9am on Thurday 19th March]

Those numbers though are still pretty good in my opinion.
 
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domalino said:
They are testing people admitted to hospital, so it tells us roughly how many are in hospital from it.
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Yes but before they were testing a wider group, so we'd expect the numbers of reported infections to be falling, even when it isn't.
 
BlueAnorak said:
New cases is now simply a measure of how many people have:
1. Contacted 111 due to being at risk and have reported symptoms and have subsequently tested positive; - OR -
2. Have contacted 999 due to having breathing difficulties and have subsequently tested positive.

This equates to about 8% (plucking a guestimate figure out of the air) of actual new cases, so multiply new cases by 100 and divide by 8 to get a rough guide to the number of actual new cases.
That's 825 based on the reported rise of 66.

Those numbers though are still pretty good in my opinion.
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Pretty much , the case though using those figures as an indicator ten todays increase of 825 compared to yeterdays 8450 using the same formula is either a blip or a sign measures are having an impact quicker than inother countries. Guess we'll see over the next few days.
 
BlueAnorak said:
New cases is now simply a measure of how many people have:
1. Contacted 111 due to being at risk and have reported symptoms and have subsequently tested positive; - OR -
2. Have contacted 999 due to having breathing difficulties and have subsequently tested positive.

This equates to about 8% (plucking a guestimate figure out of the air) of actual new cases, so multiply new cases by 100 and divide by 8 to get a rough guide to the number of actual new cases.
That's 825 based on the reported rise of 66.

Those numbers though are still pretty good in my opinion.
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= This virus isn’t very good
 
55yr old teenager said:
So why is that not listed as one of the symptoms??
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The main symptoms were cough,sore throat,high temp and difficulty breathing,the sore throat was probably because of the coughing which was relentless and from my throat to my lungs felt on fire,as before i will stress again i am in bad health already and the average person will NOT get it that bad,most people it is a mild illness
 
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