COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Daily briefing

Total deaths of those testing positive in UK hospitals

20,732

Increase of 413

Transport use,cars up a little

Apple maps,people are just starting to do more walking and driving

New cases,stable number,more testing

Hospital admissions,trend is definitely down

Critical care patients,declining

Deaths starting to decline,in hospitals

Global deaths,still tracking italy
 
Yes it is worrying the more you learn. Anyone suggesting this is man made is classed as insane but it makes you wonder. Scientists playing around with the genetic make up of known viruses and either by accident or design it has created a monster that is now amongst us. As you say this time we really could be fucked.
Doubt it
 
Questions

Care homes still not getting testing ,why not ? Ramping up testing (stock answer)

Opening schools ? Under review

Lifting restrictions? Rate of infection has to stay below 1,different measures needed to keep it below one,that is the key figure

Who makes up the SAGE committee,how do we know it has the right balance ? The names are not published for security,the minutes of the meetings are released,prof shifty happy to be named

Contact tracing ? Developing an app,the lower the number of cases the easier it is to do,keeping the R number down is key,keep social distancing

Boris coming back to work,will be ease the lockdown? Our position is to keep following the data,part of it is confirming immunity,we will not know that for months,that is key to know to move everything fowards

Food supply ? chain looks fine,panic buying has stopped,in season food such as fruit needs harvesting,they are looking to recruit for that

Travelling by air ? Small part of the covid outbreak,medical advice has been not to close airport,it will be reviewed later

Green shoots ,are we past the peak ? Everything is coming down because people have stuck to social distancing because that keeps the infection rate down,we have to avoid a second peak as numbers will go up if people break the rules,Apple maps data shows a slight increase in movement

Deaths in care homes,why didn't we include them from the start and support them better ? Additional funding now given (fudged answer),deaths in hosp are easier to get daily and confirmed cases,the care home sector is run by different people and it takes a while to get the numbers together and has to be mentioned on the death certificates

In summary

Infection rates have to stay below one,all the other numbers follow on from that

Be patient and stick to the fucking rules !
 
Did they say how many real tests they actually carried out and not the bullshit land of make-believe available tests?
 
Haha I think you need to stop reading about this virus, maybe stop coming on this thread? I did a few weeks back, my mood lifted considerably after I wasn't checking this thread 5-6 times day, out of sight out of mind and all that.

My head doesn't work that way. I can't do the ignorance is bliss thing...sadly. I've been okay though! Had a lovely day yesterday, and just back from a walk now which made me feel a lot better :)
 
Again, he has said as one of the tests for release

no risk at all of a second peak.

how on earth will they be able to determine that ?
It is all about the infection rate,as people get bored and go out then the ones without symptoms all pass it on,the scientists are looking at all the numbers for signs of an increase in people testing positive in hosp or in the community,the longer those stay down less likely another peak is,the lifting of restrictions has to be managed so that we all don't rush out and infect each other as then the domino effects starts , of course we are also behind time wise so we can see what happens in other countries.All the data from every country goes into ours as well,everyone is learning how to avoid a second peak
I think it is that anyway,someone will put me right if that is wrong
 
And you are still a twat.

I agree with GDM on this one. My assessment of you during this period is one of being very vocal about the point of view you hold. Now there is nothing wrong with an opinion, but there does appear to be an inability to take on board and debate sensibly with anyone who offers an alternative point of view. Just my outlook here, take it or leave it. Not after an argument.

The reasoning behind the potential fall out from a continued lock down is also not without foundation. We appear to be getting past the curv and at this point we should be considering exit strategy and when that is likely to occur. We can’t continue to put the economy on hold, that will have huge repercussions much larger than that of what this virus appears capable of.
 
Maybe they should try to be clear in the first place, never noticed them much before but they seem to specialise in mixed messages.

It’s a bit worrying that they seem to change their advice on a daily basis give the 70 years they’ve had studying pandemics.
 
What does the release say, and how have they changed advice?

The original said that there's no evidence that immunity is given after infection, as there isn't much data so far on level of immunity or length it would last. As a result, the immunity passport concept is not supported at the moment. (I don't think that's changed).

The amendment tweet says: "We expect that most people who are infected with #COVID19 will develop an antibody response that will provide some level of protection."
Previously they've said that people would mostly have an antibody response, but it may be very low in some cases. They mention that it can take 1-2 weeks to create an immunity/antibodies upon exposure (presumably a fast recovery/minor symptoms are too fast for the body to create a reaction?)
 
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