COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[blueparrot]

How the hell could this be possible? Was this virus circulating amongst the healthy population either with no symptoms or mild symptoms which were written off as just a bad cold or the flu? Deaths amongst the elderly or vulnerable written off as pneumonia or flu related? Why wasn’t there a massive number of cases showing up at hospitals? Unless the mortality rate is lower than we believe at present? This actually presents more questions than answers.

I don’t know whether it’s possible or not. But I’d have thought the younger socially active population either working or travelling would have been those to get it early with the older more vulnerable population getting it later from those initial infections so it could have been shrugged off as a bad cough and cold, not saying my son had it but he was quite ill and we had just made him make a doctors appointment ( he’s 18) but he couldn't get one for a few days as he was home from university and registered there by then he was getting better so he cancelled it.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Is this correct ?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/05/what-coronavirus-covid-19-world-pandemic/

coronavirus airborne?
There is some debate about whether the disease is airborne – there is no evidence for it yet, but that could change. Airborne viruses linger for a longer period of time than those spread by droplets and can also be spread in air conditioning and ventilation systems.

The current advice is that the disease can only be spread between close contacts – defined as spending more than 15 minutes within 2m of an infected person.

Crap journalism.
I could ask is it caused by eating toast, for which the response could only be there is no evidence for it yet.

 

[grunge]

I don’t understand this argument. I thought flu cases fluctuated substantially from year to year, meaning there is no accurate “expected” number of deaths in any particular month; just comparison against a rolling average. In that case, if flu numbers were below par, would “excess deaths” be impacted by a moderate number of misdiagnosed CV-19 cases?

Genuine observation, by the way. Not trying to advance any particular viewpoint and it may be I’m the one misinterpreting things.

Weekly deaths are actually quite regular in the grand scheme of things. Top graph in this list is a graph of weekly deaths for the last 10 years.

https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/covid-19-—-coronavirus.344314/page-3832#post-12635839

fluctuations per week in flu season are around 5000 deaths, summer is about 1000.

 

[mexico1970]

I don’t know whether it’s possible or not. But I’d have thought the younger socially active population either working or travelling would have been those to get it early with the older more vulnerable population getting it later from those initial infections so it could have been shrugged off as a bad cough and cold, not saying my son had it but he was quite ill and we had just made him make a doctors appointment ( he’s 18) but he couldn't get one for a few days as he was home from university and registered there by then he was getting better so he cancelled it.

My grandson who is 11 had a bout of stomach problems he said it was very painful and the doctors couldn't find anything wrong (About 4 weeks ago) he was lethargic sleeping a lot etc. The government have released details on how this virus can affect children and apparently this is one of the symptoms.

But I may be overthinking the situation, testing would have helped of course because we would have known if he and the rest of the family would have already had it.

 

[route46]

Weekly deaths are actually quite regular in the grand scheme of things. Top graph in this list is a graph of weekly deaths for the last 10 years.

https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/covid-19-—-coronavirus.344314/page-3832#post-12635839

fluctuations per week in flu season are around 5000 deaths, summer is about 1000.

When did Britain start testing deaths for Covid?

 

[Cityfan]

Spot on - viral load counts!

Don't think anyone knows whether it does or does not make a difference.

 

[mcfc1632]

Politics thread, yes, but name me a PM who has attended 1/4 of COBRA meetings? There aren't any.

Correct - for the other thread

But it is clear that some people simply do not understand the purpose of COBRA - what the facility is for and how it is used.

It is like the brand COBRA has become seen as having some mythical power - where special rites are performed.

Just another opportunity seen to bash the government on matters these people don't understand.

There are/will be plenty of reasons to criticise the government - people should not need to invent them.

 

[hgblue]

I don’t know whether it’s possible or not. But I’d have thought the younger socially active population either working or travelling would have been those to get it early with the older more vulnerable population getting it later from those initial infections so it could have been shrugged off as a bad cough and cold, not saying my son had it but he was quite ill and we had just made him make a doctors appointment ( he’s 18) but he couldn't get one for a few days as he was home from university and registered there by then he was getting better so he cancelled it.

We need an accurate and sensitive antibody test to find out how many people have had this. My worry is the tests currently being used aren’t sensitive enough to pick up the asymptomatic cases so we may not be getting the full picture.

 

[route46]

For arguments sake lets say by Jan 10000 in Britain had the infection
15% need Hospital Treatment 1500
1% die 100

Is that going to be noticeable in Flu season?

 

[Fame Monster]

Probably already posted but the ONS have put the total excess deaths up to 24th April at 42,140. Predictions are that, extended to today, we've lost over 50K people from COVID and/or the overwhelming effects it's had on the health service. Just in case anybody doubts how serious this is or how hard we've been hit.