COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[kaz7]

We are going into winter , i would like a lockdown now to decrease the numbers and so we go into it at a lower base

Students should all be tested , send home the negative ones , those who can do remote learning that are negative , the rest can stay , that would really cut down the uni cesspits and give a more true view of which areas need lockdown

They need a woman in charge

 

[Del_Bosque]

where is the best place to get daily stats for Manchester?

 

[Chippy_boy]

We're not, per capita.

I agree with you that we've done a good job increasing test capacity from a poor start.

Hahahahhahaha.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Only if you seal them all off and let nobody from the outside come in - like Wales plan to do.

A pandemic in a small island will not obey boundaries if the people carrying it choose to find reasons to go elsewhere for the weekend.

Nicola Sturgeon has spent ages this morning still trying to stop people from Glasgow travelling to Carlisle and Blackpool to watch a football match and even has people telling her to cancel it because it is such a risk.

If we had simple rapid testing to control outside access you can run this via local lockdowns. We dont. And we saw how well it worked for Greater Manchester making Wigan immune from the restrictions beause its numbers were so low.

The result was turning Wigan into a basket case that nobody saw coming. But likely should have.

Superspreading events are responsible for 80% of new cases. Prof Van-Tam has stated that is what is driving the current escalation. It is the reason the pub curfew was brought in as people relax too much when they're hammered. For example, that twat who went on the pub crawl in Bolton created virtually all of the base cases that they started with.
For the life of me I don't understand why Covid-19 etiquette is not being followed everywhere indoors.
- 3 ondoor locations outside your home per day max that includes pubs and restaurants when you go out.
- no mask no entry.
- High temperature no entry.
- You can't stand or walk or go to the loo inside without wearing a mask.
Its not rocket science to reduce super spreading events.

 

[Tanzeylee]

The UK government has confirmed that Lancashire is to move into the top tier of restrictions from 00.01 on Saturday 17 October.

Pissed tonight and footy in the hotel room tomorrow with multiple beers

 

[Chippy_boy]

Half the daily deaths in April were Covid and daily excess deaths were huge, compared to less than 10% of daily deaths in October with excess deaths tracking 5% over or under throughout September and October. ICU mortality rates are falling month on month (so far, at least) and hospital treatments are much better.

Don't forget there was a massive IFR because nobody other than severely ill hospital patients were being tetsed in April, but a much reduced IFR because young people are testing positive is somehow skewed? Truth is, I suppose that we will never work out the real IFR mid infection and it will only be once we have measure all excess deaths that we will get a true idea of the lives lost through this pandemic. It was estimated at 3.2% in April and it is now thought to be below one, varying between 0.27 and 0.9 with age specific rates of

Fact is mate, if you are from a deprived area, are over 75 and have other issues, or over 85 with not many issues, if you get a respiratory infection in the winter, you are likely to be shuffling off this mortal coil, Coronavirus or no Coronavirus. The average age of death for this in the UK is 82.4 (84 for women and 81 for men), which is actually higher than the average age of all the other deaths.

Not sure what to glean from all of the above.

But I still maintain - unless you have any evidence to the contrary - that any individual's chances of dying of this (having caught it) and not materially different today than they were in March/April.

Your comment that you are massively less likely to die, is I believe simply wrong. Although of course if there is data to prove you're right, I will be delighted to accept it!

 

[Tim of the Oak]

My cousin’s daughter is studying at Liverpool University. She had to spend a couple of days in hospital with Covid but is now back at her digs.

 

[Healdplace]

England hospital deaths are another bad one.

82 with 39 of them from the NW.

Last week it was 47 with 23 from the NW.

 

[Healdplace]

where is the best place to get daily stats for Manchester?

They are posted by me every day around 5 pm.

Search back day by day to see how they have changed.

 

[kaz7]

England hospital deaths are another bad one.

82 with 39 of them from the NW.

Last week it was 47 with 23 from the NW.

The lockdown needs to happen