COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Last week the all settings sadly was a terrible high of 696. Let us hope when out of hospital in England is added today does not top 700 as it unfortunately might based on those numbers last week.

There is hope as that 478 highpoint three weeks ago led to an all settings of 595. So hopefully we are getting on top of those England out of hospital deaths that have been escalating the numbers in the past week or two.
 
The three nation cases today total 2827 - the highest in some time.

3 wks to 2 wks to last wk to today:2950 v 2422 v 2320 v 2827 - Wednesdays seem high every week but we can hope for the best but expect the worst from England.

Last week there were 18, 213 UK cases - a big jump and higher than any day we have seen since - due to catch up after the low testing in previous days. Which might be a factor again today looking at the rises elsewhere.

Hopefully not.
 
"Fifty hospitals across the country are already set up and waiting to receive the vaccine as soon as it's approved, so that can now happen,"
The 50 hospitals are:

Blackpool Teaching Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust
Brighton and Sussex University Hospitals NHS Trust
Cambridge University Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust
Chesterfield Royal Hospital NHS Foundation Trust
Countess of Chester Hospital NHS Foundation Trust
Croydon University Hospital NHS Trust
Dartford & Gravesham NHS Trust
Dorset County Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust
East and North Hertfordshire NHS Trust
East Kent Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust
East Suffolk and North Essex NHS Foundation Trust (Colchester Hospital)
Frimley Health NHS Foundation Trust
Gloucestershire Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust
Great Western Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust
Guys & St Thomas NHS Trust
James Paget University Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust
Kings College Hospital NHS Foundation Trust
Kings College Hospital -Princess Royal University Hospital
Lancashire Teaching Hospital Trust
Leeds Teaching Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust
Leicester Partnership NHS Trust
Liverpool University Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust
Medway NHS Foundation Trust
Mid and South Essex Hospitals Trust
Milton Keynes University Hospital
Norfolk and Norwich University Hospital
Northampton General Hospital NHS Trust
North Bristol NHS Foundation Trust North West Anglia Foundation Trust
Nottingham University Hospitals NHS Trust
Oxford Health NHS Foundation Trust
Portsmouth Hospital University Trust
Royal Cornwall Hospitals NHS Trust
Royal Free London NHS Foundation Trust
Salford Royal NHS Foundation Trust
Sheffield Teaching Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust
Sherwood Forest Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust
Shrewsbury and Telford NHS Trust
Stockport NHS Foundation Trust
St George's University Hospitals NHS FT
The Newcastle upon Tyne Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust
University College Hospitals Trust
University Hospitals Birmingham NHS Foundation Trust
University Hospital Coventry & Warwickshire
University Hospitals Derby Burton NHS FT
University Hospitals of North Midlands NHS Trust
University Hospitals Plymouth NHS Trust
United Lincolnshire Hospitals NHS Trust
Walsall Healthcare NHS Trust
West Hertfordshire Hospitals NHS Trust
Wirral University Teaching Hospital
Worcestershire Acute Hospitals NHS Trust
Yeovil District Hospital NHS Foundation Trust

These hubs are not necessarily where all patients will receive their vaccines, but are sites that are going to be capable of storing the vaccines and coordinate their distribution.
 
Sorry if already posted, or similar has been posted before...but it had a couple of facts i was unaware of:

factcheckni.org

The COVID-19 mRNA vaccine: What is it and how has it been developed so quickly? - FactCheckNI

The Pfizer/BioNTech coronavirus vaccine has been approved for use in the UK from the week commencing 6 December 2020. This means that the UK has become the first country in the world to approve the vaccine for widespread use. MHRA, the British regulator, says the jab, which offers up to 95%...
factcheckni.org factcheckni.org

This is i didnt know:


What is this COVID-19 mRNA vaccine?

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention described this COVID-19 vaccine as a messenger RNA vaccine — or a mRNA vaccine.

This type of vaccine does not put a weakened or inactivated germ into our bodies. Rather, mRNA teaches our cells how to make a protein — or even just a piece of a protein — that triggers an immune response inside our bodies. COVID-19 mRNA vaccines give instructions for our cells to make a harmless piece of what is called the “spike protein”. This “spike protein” is found on the surface of the virus that causes COVID-19. The immune response to this — our body’s production of antibodies — is what protects us from getting infected if the real virus enters our bodies.

It has been explained that a major advantage of RNA vaccines is that RNA can be produced in the laboratory from a DNA template using readily available materials, less expensively and faster than conventional vaccine production.
 
Just reading this on the BBC. So care home residents arent going to be first in the queue. How do they get the flu vaccine? Does someone go into the home?


There is a clear priority list for who gets the vaccine first – and care home residents and staff are top of it.
But operational complexities mean the reality will be somewhat different.
When the vaccines arrives, it will be sent straight to major hospitals who have the ultra-cold facilities to store it.
From there it can be moved just once – and when it is, it must be kept in batches of 1,000.
That means sending it out to care homes where there may be only a few dozen residents in some places would lead to a huge amount of vaccine being wasted.
Because of that, the NHS, which is in charge of distributing the vaccine, will run clinics from hospitals at first.
This will allow health and care home staff to get immunised first as well as, perhaps, some of the older age groups who come into hospital.
It looks like it will not be until much more of the Pfizer vaccine is available or the Oxford University one, which is easier to distribute, is approved that care home residents will be able to get it.
 
AlexWilliamsGloves said:
Sorry if already posted, or similar has been posted before...but it had a couple of facts i was unaware of:

factcheckni.org

The COVID-19 mRNA vaccine: What is it and how has it been developed so quickly? - FactCheckNI

The Pfizer/BioNTech coronavirus vaccine has been approved for use in the UK from the week commencing 6 December 2020. This means that the UK has become the first country in the world to approve the vaccine for widespread use. MHRA, the British regulator, says the jab, which offers up to 95%...
factcheckni.org factcheckni.org

This is i didnt know:


What is this COVID-19 mRNA vaccine?

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention described this COVID-19 vaccine as a messenger RNA vaccine — or a mRNA vaccine.

This type of vaccine does not put a weakened or inactivated germ into our bodies. Rather, mRNA teaches our cells how to make a protein — or even just a piece of a protein — that triggers an immune response inside our bodies. COVID-19 mRNA vaccines give instructions for our cells to make a harmless piece of what is called the “spike protein”. This “spike protein” is found on the surface of the virus that causes COVID-19. The immune response to this — our body’s production of antibodies — is what protects us from getting infected if the real virus enters our bodies.

It has been explained that a major advantage of RNA vaccines is that RNA can be produced in the laboratory from a DNA template using readily available materials, less expensively and faster than conventional vaccine production.
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I read a good explainer of this vaccine style a few weeks back and it actually reassured me. It honestly sounds safer to me tbh than the old style, and more effective too. Hopefully these aren't famous last words, but I like that's it really simple to understand. Way I interpreted it was that it's coding makes one of our cells produce something that looks structurally similar to covid-19 (but completely inert with absolutely zero capabilities of doing anything) with the little spike on it, and then our body's immune system goes 'who's this ****?' and swoops in and gets rid of the fucker...importantly, it has then learned to do that if it sees something similar again - i.e the actual covid-19 - that it should do the same again and get rid of it. It's learned what it looks like, harmlessly. All the while the mRNA has degraded harmlessly in barely any time at all given it breaks down easily.

Hopefully I got that right! For me anyway, hearing how it works made it sound less scary than the old way of putting a bit of the virus actually in you.
 
ayrshire_blue said:
Fair enough, thank you. Perhaps I'm a bit under informed when it comes to the makeup of the population in terms of density/poverty, I wouldn't have thought these areas in the valley's would be so significantly different from elsewhere in the UK to be so different in terms of case numbers but every day's a school day as they say.
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I don't think the Valleys are that different to other densely populated, industrialised areas of the UK. As you know, localised rates in Scotland are much higher in west central Scotland than places such as Moray or Dumfries & Galloway.

For whatever reason, the Welsh Government decided to devote its energies on imposing blanket restrictions across all Wales rather than really getting to grips with the disease hotspots in the Valleys. I think this has been a big mistake.
 
Sadly seems I was right. 16, 170 cases.

I do wish they would sort out this testing creating these ups and downs as that seems like a big jump the day lockdown ends.
 
All settings deaths though at 648 is tragically high but not over 700 or a new high point. So that at least is positive as likely the worst number of the week. Hopefully.

Still a long way to go and Christmas consequences to welcome in the new year too.
 
hammocity said:
As a matter of fact I can tell you there were patients with Covid in non Covid wards in Tameside Hospitals in September. I picked my pal up from his shift early in that month and he was fuming, the cases had multiplied rapidly and patients were being placed in any available bed, he'd had Covid himself in March, he got mild symptoms but his wife became very ill but fortunately got better. His protection then as now was a standard issue mask, nothing medically specialised, just bog standard issue. He worked in Patient transfer and now empties the medical bins, he's transported quite a lot of Covid patients and seen some of them die quite quickly. There is a lot of anxiety amongst his colleagues, not a great situation to be in.
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No change there then.
I must have had 20 relatives die in that place over the years. At least 10 were early deaths down to poor practice.
 
Testing up from 196, 938 finding 13, 430 cases yesterday.

To 282, 857 finding 16, 170 cases today.

This is at least partly why these big jumps keep happening.

I do not understand why these have to swing all over the place as much as they do.

Of course if you do 86, 000 more tests it is not a huge shock if you find more positives. But we really need a little more day to day consistency.

The % positive number is key here.

And that FALLS from 6. 8 yesterday to 5.7 today. But the media likely will not notice that important fact as raw numbers have gone up a lot will be the headline.
 
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Healdplace said:
Testing up from 196, 938 finding 13, 430 cases yesterday.

To 282, 857 finding 16, 170 cases. today.

This is at least partly why these big jumps keep happening.

I do not understand why these have to swing all over the place as much as they do.
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Yeah but people only go for tests when they get symptoms or get pinged by the NHS app.
Mass Lateral flow tests are being rolled out to workplaces of danger. That needs to include schools.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Yeah but people only go for tests when they get symptoms or get pinged by the NHS app.
Mass Lateral flow tests are being rolled out to workplaces of danger. That needs to include schools.
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Not just those reasons. now, my,wife, son and daughter have all had tests in the last week, all 3 for different reasons, one a student coming home, one works in a hospital, one a random test when she went to the dentist.
 
Agreed BlueAnorak but they really should start telling the media the % positive rate as it is more informative to watch day to day than these numbers jumping all over the place.
 
BlueAnorak said:
No change there then.
I must have had 20 relatives die in that place over the years. At least 10 were early deaths down to poor practice.
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People at the Trust had worked really hard in recent years to shed the Shameside reputation but it sounds like it’s gone backwards again.
 
And as expected the BBC on their coverage of the 5 pm Boris conference on live mention the big rise in cases but no mention of the massive jump in testing that means there were fewer positive tests today than yesterday. Which deserves at least a mention.
 
Assuming the new vaccine which is to be given in stages to the population of the UK [if there is enough to go around and if it is effective], then when can we ditch the face masks? Will it be a kept instruction until the last person is injected or will masks remain a legal requirement for those people at the back end of the queue only?
 
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