Covid and travel discussion

How's passport control into EU countries? I expect the French to be bloody-minded about things for UK visitors! Do the Dutch still like us? Last time I was in the Netherlands the passport guy said he was very impressed with the quality of the photos in UK passports! But there again is the photo in a UK passport added to the passport in the UK or is it part of some foreign sub-contracted system! I think I shall be visiting much of the UK before I look for the usual continental bike trips.
 
Weighing it up, I can't see anywhere in Europe going red this summer. I don't think we have the capacity to quarantine people en masse, it would be a disaster to allow travel and then pull it with large numbers of Brits Abroad that would then need to hotel quarantine. Another thing coming down the line is approx. 100k foreign students from red list countries at the end of the summer holiday period that will need to quarantine. We don't have the capacity to quarantine them and large numbers of Brits Abroad.
In essence if your vaccinated green or amber doesn't matter, the rules and regs are the same.
The only real danger is somewhere going red whilst you are abroad.
The governments handling of the travel issue has been appalling.
 
How's passport control into EU countries? I expect the French to be bloody-minded about things for UK visitors! Do the Dutch still like us? Last time I was in the Netherlands the passport guy said he was very impressed with the quality of the photos in UK passports! But there again is the photo in a UK passport added to the passport in the UK or is it part of some foreign sub-contracted system! I think I shall be visiting much of the UK before I look for the usual continental bike trips.

I had a flying trip to France over the winter and it was very easy getting through, more issues on the UK side for coming back but nowt serious (I got three days cycling in) New passports are very good, one of my mates used to work at the HMSO facility in Heywood and he was well impressed, they are finishing them in the UK
 
How's passport control into EU countries? I expect the French to be bloody-minded about things for UK visitors! Do the Dutch still like us? Last time I was in the Netherlands the passport guy said he was very impressed with the quality of the photos in UK passports! But there again is the photo in a UK passport added to the passport in the UK or is it part of some foreign sub-contracted system! I think I shall be visiting much of the UK before I look for the usual continental bike trips.
Austria won’t let Brits in at all.
Some counties won’t let you in in you have the wrong “AZ” vaccine.
Greece won’t let you in if your NHS covid passport is not in your passport name. A problem for some married women.
 
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In essence if your vaccinated green or amber doesn't matter, the rules and regs are the same.
The only real danger is somewhere going red whilst you are abroad.
The governments handling of the travel issue has been appalling.

There’s a bigger risk of it going to red whilst you are away if it’s Amber when you leave, but yeah, the green vs Amber thing for a double vaxxee isn’t really a thing in terms of testing etc.
 
I think the problem is that the government want to have their cake and eat it.

On the one hand they want to be seen to be allowing people the choice to travel, but on the other hand they are making it more difficult so that most people won't bother.

Of course they can't be seen to be admitting that. It's nothing to do with being greener or even getting us to spend more money in this country. It's all to do with how they look to the press and public. I can't think of a better explanation that fits what is now happening than that.
Feedback Ive had from people who have been away is that getting there is no issue, but once abroad they spent so much time filling in forms and sorting tests that they wished they hadnt bothered. It was getting home that was the issue
 
There’s a bigger risk of it going to red whilst you are away if it’s Amber when you leave, but yeah, the green vs Amber thing for a double vaxxee isn’t really a thing in terms of testing etc.
It's more complicated than last year when we didn't even have the vaccine!
I still think a lot of this is inside pressure from the government to please the emissions targets and they are using covid still as a convenient side show to meet the green targets.
We were told last year get your jab you get your freedom, we were lied to.
It's simple they don't want people travelling abroad and rather than just put out a carte blanche instruction like Australia have they create an awful traffic light system which is useful as a chocolate teapot.
 

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