Covid and travel discussion

ell said:
Just a little bit confused about these rules, are there any rules in regards to boarding a plane in the UK for example if someone has had two doses of the jab (and they are travelling to a country that accepts vaccination certificate) are they allowed to depart the UK without a negative test? So they will just need a negative before returning to the UK, and a PCR on or before day 2 when they return?
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It's all a bit of a clusterfuck, so confusing and a lot of conflicting advice kicking about.

As I understand it....

Some countries might accept proof of being double jabbed in lieu of a negative PCR test generally 72 hours before arrival. I think it's too early at the moment for any country to have set out 100% their confirmed arrival processes, but recently both Greece and Spain have suggested they may grant fully vaccinated passengers easier entry.

The possible sticking point could be the airline carrying you.
Again all this is yet to come out in the wash however I wouldn't be surprised to see some airlines insert a condition of carriage this summer to only permit passengers who have proof of a negative PCR test.

So for example you could be booked to go to Greece on a package holiday, and Greece will let you in without testing if double jabbed but the airline (for arguments sake, Easyjet) will only carry you on production of a negative test. So at the moment it's probably wise to assume everyone, jabbed or otherwise, will need this negative PCR test before travel.

Coming back the consensus seems to be a negative test before you leave your holiday destination, but a lateral flow is likely to be accepted for this. And then a PCR test within 2 days of returning to the UK. Note your landing day will be day zero. This is based on returning from a 'green' country.

What I am particularly unsure of at the moment is how this PCR test within 2 days of returning will be policed; I think it's going to be linked to the passenger locator form (PLF) everyone will have to complete before coming home, and you might need to have proof that you're booked in for a test and this will be linked to the form somehow. Border enforcement are saying they will be checking every single arriving passenger (whereas last year it was just spot checks for the PLF, mine was only checked 2/6 times on return).

Above might not be correct/my interpretation so please don't take anything as gospel and undoubtedly the rules and regs could change as the summer progresses. Gonna be really interesting to see the first wave of returnees towards the end of May and how good/bad the whole process is.
 
feedthegoat27 said:
It's all a bit of a clusterfuck, so confusing and a lot of conflicting advice kicking about.

As I understand it....

Some countries might accept proof of being double jabbed in lieu of a negative PCR test generally 72 hours before arrival. I think it's too early at the moment for any country to have set out 100% their confirmed arrival processes, but recently both Greece and Spain have suggested they may grant fully vaccinated passengers easier entry.

The possible sticking point could be the airline carrying you.
Again all this is yet to come out in the wash however I wouldn't be surprised to see some airlines insert a condition of carriage this summer to only permit passengers who have proof of a negative PCR test.

So for example you could be booked to go to Greece on a package holiday, and Greece will let you in without testing if double jabbed but the airline (for arguments sake, Easyjet) will only carry you on production of a negative test. So at the moment it's probably wise to assume everyone, jabbed or otherwise, will need this negative PCR test before travel.

Coming back the consensus seems to be a negative test before you leave your holiday destination, but a lateral flow is likely to be accepted for this. And then a PCR test within 2 days of returning to the UK. Note your landing day will be day zero. This is based on returning from a 'green' country.

What I am particularly unsure of at the moment is how this PCR test within 2 days of returning will be policed; I think it's going to be linked to the passenger locator form (PLF) everyone will have to complete before coming home, and you might need to have proof that you're booked in for a test and this will be linked to the form somehow. Border enforcement are saying they will be checking every single arriving passenger (whereas last year it was just spot checks for the PLF, mine was only checked 2/6 times on return).

Above might not be correct/my interpretation so please don't take anything as gospel and undoubtedly the rules and regs could change as the summer progresses. Gonna be really interesting to see the first wave of returnees towards the end of May and how good/bad the whole process is.
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Yep this is where I'm confused, I was under the impression it was a UK thing that everyone needs a negative test before leaving the UK so vaccine entry into for example a Green list Spain doesn't really matter because you had to get tested anyway. But I've since seen info saying different, and I believe Portugal are about to announce either a negative test or vaccinated. Currently out of the 6 of us booked 3 should be double dosed by the time we fly so that would save £150 minimum on pre departure testing. Either way were not going till June so will have time to see how it pans out, I'd be a bit nervous flying out on Monday though.
 
ell said:
Yep this is where I'm confused, I was under the impression it was a UK thing that everyone needs a negative test before leaving the UK so vaccine entry into for example a Green list Spain doesn't really matter because you had to get tested anyway. But I've since seen info saying different, and I believe Portugal are about to announce either a negative test or vaccinated. Currently out of the 6 of us booked 3 should be double dosed by the time we fly so that would save £150 minimum on pre departure testing. Either way were not going till June so will have time to see how it pans out, I'd be a bit nervous flying out on Monday though.
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I think some of the lingo the government/Travel task force have used has been too ambiguous.
When the traffic light system first surfaced, it said ''pre departure'' test.
I took this to meaning a test before you leave the UK, but I think it does mean obtaining a negative test whilst in resort before you fly home. Though I'm still not 100% sure either way!

Ideally it will be a streamlined arrivals process, but its all going to depend on what the destination country requires, coupled with any possible airline requirements for boarding.

Anyone shooting off abroad early doors really are the guinea pigs for the rest of us hoping to get away later this summer.
 
ell said:
Just a little bit confused about these rules, are there any rules in regards to boarding a plane in the UK for example if someone has had two doses of the jab (and they are travelling to a country that accepts vaccination certificate) are they allowed to depart the UK without a negative test? So they will just need a negative before returning to the UK, and a PCR on or before day 2 when they return?
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What vaccination certificate?
 
Martin Lewis site tried to explain it in the latest link

www.moneysavingexpert.com

Coronavirus Travel Rights

The coronavirus outbreak is causing major travel disruption around the globe.. We've the full info on what's happened, including changes to testing and quarantining. Plus, this guide also has key info on travel insurance, refund rights and more.
www.moneysavingexpert.com www.moneysavingexpert.com
 
ell said:
From Monday your vaccination records will be on the NHS app. Its up to your destination country whether they are accepting this or not.
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So as I thought, no certificate.

My covid vaccinations are already in my details on the NHS app.
 
ell said:
Its from Monday and will fall under a separate section according to the BBC

www.bbc.co.uk

Covid passports: Where do I still need to use one?

Mandatory Covid passports end in Scotland, as has happened in England, Wales and Northern Ireland.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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My NHS app already has my covid vaccine record in the medical history section, having already set it up with my GP practice.
 
SWP's back said:
That’s called Arabic (and has English on one side). Means no quarantine for us in lots of countries. One would assume they’d be worth having in the U.K.
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Is that genuine?
I thought you were taking the piss with something bought off eBay!
I could run up a passable facsimile on a lap top in half an hour.
I would hope it would not be accepted in lieu of testing and quarantine in the UK.
 
denislawsbackheel said:
Is that genuine?
I thought you were taking the piss with something bought off eBay!
I could run up a passable facsimile on a lap top in half an hour.
I would hope it would not be accepted in lieu of testing and quarantine in the UK.
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Yes it’s the genuine pdf copy from a shit picture I took of my laptop screen. I also have an original copy.

I also have the official health app which can be verified and shows the same.
 
Seychelles currently on the red list ho hum but not scheduled to go until October. Oh and bloody Etihad changing the flight days/times...... again.
Anyway got the Sweaty Socks to visit in June.
 
2 of my mates have had no issues flew into Amsterdam yesterday morning entered the country without issues and have today flown into ibiza today after a night in dam no issues again. They did get questioned about there reason for travel there excuse was that they were visiting a relative in hospital.
 
canary islands minister has stated that they are in direct contact with uk government and they will be on the green list imminently. talks are in place that could see tourists return in early june
 
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