COVID Data Thread

Have not posted in a couple of days thinking about whether to continue or not tbh. And yesterday was a good day (City finally up to their potential this season) so did not want to spoil it as yesterdays numbers in Greater Manchester were as feared way up and is likely not that far behind a stratospheric London.

Not sure if it is more important than ever to follow the numbers right now or stick my fingers in my ears and go la la la hoping it will be over when I win the X Factor - in my head or reality two very different far distant years away.

On the other thread it is now a bitter war between optimism and pessimism and name calling for all on the opposite side. Bit like a football forum. And if you support the wromg side or are saying it is too early to decide but hope the good guys win (less dangerous + super infective = we might speed up getting out of the pandemic - less dangerous but so infective it might need a month lockdown to stop the NHS going under by sheer weight of numbers = you are a government stooge or loving the pandemic and you do not want it to end and destroy your own meaningfulness as a talker on BM).

Actually I ended up just finding the other thread a bit like something I have been quite used to over the past 50 years or so that most of you will not likely have faced for obvious reasons. A boys club.

A bunch of blokes who like to talk over one another and BE right because that's how nature intends it. In other places I have long got used to saying my piece if it really matters or keeping quiet and letting them get on with it as in the end they will either be right or wrong - and so will I - but they will convince themselves you were wrong regardless and it is easier to just let them believe they are right. As I do not have any particular need to be right. Indeed with Covid I usually hope I am wrong. As I want this over as bad as anyone. But wanting is not the same as having and never is in this world. We have to face reality as it emerges not our own desire for what WILL emerge.

Been there, done that, and in the end usually just walked away.I prefer a quiet life not to argue.

And I KNOW by the way I am talking generalities here. Not all are the same. I do not think socierty is a set of cliche's.

I just don't like engaging in rows or fights over things. So am staying out of the other thread.

Of course, most people are there now as that is where the action is. So I am just unsure whether or not it is even helpful to post any data in here.

I have still been recording it past 2 days - not because I am desperate for doom and gloom as many on there think I guess - but because I feel we are at a vital turning point in the pandemic and the next 2 months may determine where we go in the next ten years. And it really could be very good news or very bad news and it really also is too early to call.Though hope slightly outweighs dismay right now. And seems to be firming up not getting less likely. But even the best scenario will not be easy or good in coming weeks and people will die - not all from Covid - if hospital numbers escalate too far.

Still pondering IF I should post any data in here. Or to just stop posting altogether and do that fingers in the ears thing. It is make my mind up time.

Apologies for the ramble but I thought you deserved to know why I had just stopped posting.
 
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Healdplace said:
Have not posted in a couple of days thinking about whether to continue or not tbh. And yesterday was a good day (City finally up to their potential this season) so did not want to spoil it as yesterdays numbers in Greater Manchester were as feared way up and is likely not that far behind a stratospheric London.

Not sure if it is more important than ever to follow the numbers right now or stick my fingers in my ears and go la la la hoping it will be over when I win the X Factor (and that being in my head or reality being two very different distant years away).

On the other thread it is now a bitter war between optimism and pessimism and name calling for all on the opposite side. Bit like a football forum. And if you support the wromg side or are saying it is too early to decide but hope the good guys win (less dangerous + super infective = we might speed up getting out of the pandemic - less dangerous but so infective it might need a month lockdown to stop the NHS going under by sheer weight of numbers = you are a government stooge or loving the pandemic and you do not want it to end and destroy your own meaningfulness as a talker on BM).

Actually I ended up just finding the other thread a bit like something I have been quite used to over the past 50 years or so most of you will not likely have faced for obvious reasons. A boys club.

A bunch of blokes who like to talk over one another and BE right because that's how nature intends it. In other places I have long got used to saying my piece if it really matters or keeping quiet and letting them get on with it as in the end they will either be right or wrong - and so will you - but they will convince themselves you were wrong regardless and it is easier to just let them believe they are right.

Been there, done that, and in the end usually just walked away.I prefer a quiet life not to argue.

And I KNOW by the way I am talking generalities here. Not all are the same. I do not think socierty is a set of cliche's.

I just don;t like engaging in rows or fights over things. So am syaing out of the other thread.

Of course, most people are there now as that is where the action is. So I am just unsure whether ot is even helpful to post data in here.

I have still beem recording it past 2 days - not because I am desperate for doom and gloom as many on there think I guess - but because I feel we are at a vital turning point in the pandemic and the next 2 months may determine where we go in the next ten years. And it really could be very good news or very bad news and it really also is too early to call.Though hope slightly outwighw dismay right now.

Still pondering IF to post any data in here. Or to just stop posting altogether. It is make my mind up time.
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Do whatever is best for your own mental health. It's the most important thing.

FWIW I don't think dedicating what must be hours and hours every single day to covid can be a healthy thing for anyone, unless it's their actual job.

It's a nice day today. Go for a walk or something.
 
Healdplace said:
Have not posted in a couple of days thinking about whether to continue or not tbh. And yesterday was a good day (City finally up to their potential this season) so did not want to spoil it as yesterdays numbers in Greater Manchester were as feared way up and is likely not that far behind a stratospheric London.

Not sure if it is more important than ever to follow the numbers right now or stick my fingers in my ears and go la la la hoping it will be over when I win the X Factor (and that being in my head or reality being two very different distant years away).

On the other thread it is now a bitter war between optimism and pessimism and name calling for all on the opposite side. Bit like a football forum. And if you support the wromg side or are saying it is too early to decide but hope the good guys win (less dangerous + super infective = we might speed up getting out of the pandemic - less dangerous but so infective it might need a month lockdown to stop the NHS going under by sheer weight of numbers = you are a government stooge or loving the pandemic and you do not want it to end and destroy your own meaningfulness as a talker on BM).

Actually I ended up just finding the other thread a bit like something I have been quite used to over the past 50 years or so that most of you will not likely have faced for obvious reasons. A boys club.

A bunch of blokes who like to talk over one another and BE right because that's how nature intends it. In other places I have long got used to saying my piece if it really matters or keeping quiet and letting them get on with it as in the end they will either be right or wrong - and so will I - but they will convince themselves you were wrong regardless and it is easier to just let them believe they are right. As I do not have any particular need to be right. Indeed with Covid I usually hope I am wrong. As I want this over as bad as anyone. But wanting is not the same as having and never is in this world. We have to face reality as it emerges not our own desire for what WILL emerge.

Been there, done that, and in the end usually just walked away.I prefer a quiet life not to argue.

And I KNOW by the way I am talking generalities here. Not all are the same. I do not think socierty is a set of cliche's.

I just don't like engaging in rows or fights over things. So am staying out of the other thread.

Of course, most people are there now as that is where the action is. So I am just unsure whether or not it is even helpful to post any data in here.

I have still been recording it past 2 days - not because I am desperate for doom and gloom as many on there think I guess - but because I feel we are at a vital turning point in the pandemic and the next 2 months may determine where we go in the next ten years. And it really could be very good news or very bad news and it really also is too early to call.Though hope slightly outweighs dismay right now. And seems to be forming up not getting less likey. But even the best scenario will not be easy or good and people will due - not all from Covid - if hospital numbers escalte too far.

Still pondering IF to post any data in here. Or to just stop posting altogether. It is make my mind up time.
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Don't let yourself be chased out by the loudmouths.

Too much of that on social media.
 
Of the 1,391 Covid-19 cases in London recorded on December 11 and 12 where the S gene status could be determined, 721 were classed as SGTF

So more than half Covid infections around the 9th and 10th Dec were omicron. So the claims about 200k omicron new cases per day are in the right order of magnitude.
 
Healdplace said:
Have not posted in a couple of days thinking about whether to continue or not tbh. And yesterday was a good day (City finally up to their potential this season) so did not want to spoil it as yesterdays numbers in Greater Manchester were as feared way up and is likely not that far behind a stratospheric London.

Not sure if it is more important than ever to follow the numbers right now or stick my fingers in my ears and go la la la hoping it will be over when I win the X Factor (and that being in my head or reality being two very different distant years away).

On the other thread it is now a bitter war between optimism and pessimism and name calling for all on the opposite side. Bit like a football forum. And if you support the wromg side or are saying it is too early to decide but hope the good guys win (less dangerous + super infective = we might speed up getting out of the pandemic - less dangerous but so infective it might need a month lockdown to stop the NHS going under by sheer weight of numbers = you are a government stooge or loving the pandemic and you do not want it to end and destroy your own meaningfulness as a talker on BM).

Actually I ended up just finding the other thread a bit like something I have been quite used to over the past 50 years or so that most of you will not likely have faced for obvious reasons. A boys club.

A bunch of blokes who like to talk over one another and BE right because that's how nature intends it. In other places I have long got used to saying my piece if it really matters or keeping quiet and letting them get on with it as in the end they will either be right or wrong - and so will I - but they will convince themselves you were wrong regardless and it is easier to just let them believe they are right. As I do not have any particular need to be right. Indeed with Covid I usually hope I am wrong. As I want this over as bad as anyone. But wanting is not the same as having and never is in this world. We have to face reality as it emerges not our own desire for what WILL emerge.

Been there, done that, and in the end usually just walked away.I prefer a quiet life not to argue.

And I KNOW by the way I am talking generalities here. Not all are the same. I do not think socierty is a set of cliche's.

I just don't like engaging in rows or fights over things. So am staying out of the other thread.

Of course, most people are there now as that is where the action is. So I am just unsure whether or not it is even helpful to post any data in here.

I have still been recording it past 2 days - not because I am desperate for doom and gloom as many on there think I guess - but because I feel we are at a vital turning point in the pandemic and the next 2 months may determine where we go in the next ten years. And it really could be very good news or very bad news and it really also is too early to call.Though hope slightly outweighs dismay right now. And seems to be forming up not getting less likey. But even the best scenario will not be easy or good and people will due - not all from Covid - if hospital numbers escalte too far.

Still pondering IF to post any data in here. Or to just stop posting altogether. It is make my mind up time.
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Do whatever you want to do, the information & times spent by you putting everything together is/has been very useful.

It's shame that almost all threads on here end up in a bun fight at some time or other.

If you do decide to call it a day it's a big thank you from me.
 
johnnymarrsbarres said:
Do whatever is best for your own mental health. It's the most important thing.

FWIW I don't think dedicating what must be hours and hours every single day to covid can be a healthy thing for anyone, unless it's their actual job.

It's a nice day today. Go for a walk or something.
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Thank you. You are not wrong about the impact on mental health. Hence the hesitation.

I go for a walk most days. I know the importance of exercise at my age and the pandemic has eaten into that option badly.

And though it likely must seem like I take hours over the numbers it is actually not that long. I use templates and know where and when to look up numbers and just slot them in. So it takes much less time than you might suppose. I have done this sort of thing all my life so it is not a slog for me.

I live alone now and not currently writing books, travelling the world or doing radio and TV like I used to do. Though that may change when this is over most is not as a result of the pandemic.

Once you reach my age - which will seem a very long time away but will arrive faster than you think - doing useful things with your time carries more moment than you might appreciate now.
 
Healdplace said:
Thank you. You are not wrong about the impact on mental health. Hence the hesitation.

I go for a walk most days. I know the importance of exercise at my age and the pandemic has eaten into that option badly.

And though it likely must seem like I take hours over the numbers it is actually not that long. I use templates and know where and when to look up numbers and just slot them in. So it takes much less time than you might suppose. I have done this sort of thing all my life so it is not a slog for me.

I live alone now and not currently writing books, travelling the world or doing radio and TV like I used to do. Though that may change when this is over most is not as a result of the pandemic.

Once you reach my age - which will seem a very long time away but will arrive faster than you think - doing useful things with your time carries more moment than you might appreciate now.
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Keep posting. Its useful to have the facts.
Most of all though look after yourself mate.
 
WALES DATA TODAY



10 deaths - was 11 last week

2431 cases - was 2313 last week

12.5% positivity - was 14% last week

390 patients - was 375 last week

37 ventilated - was 36 last week


As yet in Wales not the exponential growth we are expecting from Omicron
 
Yesterday in North West there was a dramatic increase in cases v the day before.

NW up from 3317 to 5345 - the biggest day to day jump I can recall. Was 4667 a week before.

For comparison London was up from 11,791 to 12,832 - more than double the 5987 a week before

London seems ahead of the Omicron curve

South East is still higher than NW but more stable and down yesterday on 9077 from 9214 V 8433 the week before.

East is also accelerating up yesterday on 7589 from 5719 V 4597 the week before.

These are the big areas of concern, South West actually fell day to day and week to week on 3938 - well below North West after being well ahead for weeks.

Yorkshire is also doing well on 2972 - up only slightly from 2754 and V 2824 the week before.

Both Midlands regions are also showing signs of escalation - presumably from Omicron

West Midlands doubled yesterday to 4786 - up from 3188 the week before. East Midlands not as bad but up too by over 1000 on 4335.

This is starting to look like it is everywhere now. With North East. Yorkshire and South West the only three not as of yesterday seeing any evidence of growth.
 
Greater Manchester yesterday took a big share of that North West rise.

2391 of the 5345 cases - 44.7% - well above the 35% or so that GM was of the NW daily until recently

Three boroughs had daily Pop Scores over 100 for the first time in a while.

Manchester - up 104 (very unusual for the city to get a daily Pop in three figures). It had 582 cases. Highest in a year.

Stockport on 112 - had 328 cases - only topped once in many weeks.

And Trafford the worst numbers again on a pop of 141 - one of the highest daily rises ever in GM - with 335 cases

Salford was not far below 100 Pop Score (on 96) and 252 cases.

Tameside curiously is the only borough doing reasonably well on just 117 cases - best in GM. Though Wigan too is the only other one down week to week with Tameside on 194.

Everyone else was well up week to week - Manchester by 285 - Trafford by 140 - Stockport 103

Indeed Dr Jenny Harries singled out the Manchester area today in her briefing as a very significant growth area for Omicron.

Hence the numbers above. Especially in three areas best known for Christmas shopping in Greater Manchester which may not be a coincidence.
 
ENGLAND HOSPITAL DATA




119 with 20 North West

Was 113 with 11 NW last week & 102 with 21 NW week before

East 14, London 25, Midlands 28, NE & Yorkshire 15, North West 20, South East 6 & South West 11

7 in Kettering the most


NW Trusts:

6 in St Helens, 2 each in Bolton, Stockport & Wirral AND 1 each in East Cheshire, Mid Cheshire, Manchester, Morecambe, Pennine Acute, Salford, Southport & Tameside

By Age:

0 - 19 (1) 20 - 39 (5), 40 - 59 (18), 60 - 79 (49) & 80 PLUS (46)

First death in teens or under in a while sadly.
 
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THE PAST WEEKS CASES IN NORTHERN IRELAND BY AGE RANGE

AS YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS OVER 65 ARE STILL FALLING NOT RISING - JUST 350 VERSUS 453 UNDER 5 AND 2131 UNDER 10.

THIS IS A VERY DRAMATIC TURNABOUT IN THE DISTRIBUTION OF CASES AND MAY BE WHY THEY ARE RUSHING TO LOWER THE AGE OF THOSE GETTING JABS
 
SCOTLAND DATA

22 deaths - was 19 last week

5155 cases - was 3077 last week - dramatic rise here sadly

9.1% positivity - was 8.1% last week (not a big jump here so a lot more trsting going on)

541 patients - up 3 on yesterday - was 582 last week

38 ventilated icu - was 38 yesterday & 41 last week -
 
NORTHERN IRELAND DATA


4 deaths - was 5 last week

2156 cases - was 1933 last week

12,166 WEEKLY CASES - WAS 11,772 YESTERDAY & 12,465 LAST WEEK

32 CARE HOME OUTBREAKS - WAS 35 YESTERDAY & 32 LAST WEEK

315 patients - was 326 yesterday & 329 last week

27 Ventilated - was 27 yesterday & 34 last week

Likely behind the Omicron curve thanks to the Irish Sea but hints it is getting there.
 
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