craig burley

Dyed Petya said:
interpol said:
"If the shirt pulling starts outside the penalty area but goes on into the area, the ref is at liberty to give a penalty."
WTF rule is that then?

If a foul starts outside the penalty area, but continues inside it, then it's a penalty I'm afraid. Can't quote you the exact number of the rule, but that's the right decision. They don't always give it for holding and shirt pulling, but it was technically a pen.

Not sure about that one !
 
We are all living in cloud cookoo land to an extent, we've played two decent sides recently and we've been soundly beaten both times. We are way off the pace. Players like Robinho, Petrov and Zabaleta won't go into battle for us.
Ridiculous to say 'i hate Craig Burley' because he calls it right.
 
bluerthanblue said:
Dyed Petya said:
If a foul starts outside the penalty area, but continues inside it, then it's a penalty I'm afraid. Can't quote you the exact number of the rule, but that's the right decision. They don't always give it for holding and shirt pulling, but it was technically a pen.

Not sure about that one !

You may not be sure, but it's definitely right. The principle is that when the foul takes place, the player is making progress so it's an application of the advantage rule to let him get into the penalty area. If he's then inside the penalty area and fouled so that he can't make any more progress, it's a penalty. Simple.
 
Dyed Petya said:
interpol said:
"If the shirt pulling starts outside the penalty area but goes on into the area, the ref is at liberty to give a penalty."
WTF rule is that then?

If a foul starts outside the penalty area, but continues inside it, then it's a penalty I'm afraid. Can't quote you the exact number of the rule, but that's the right decision. They don't always give it for holding and shirt pulling, but it was technically a pen.

Pretty stupid by Micah because it was fairly blatant and gave the linesman the right to give the penalty, but the foul didn't even do anything to help prevent danger. Let's not fall into the trap of blaming the officials for tonight. We simply got exactly what we deserved from a game where we were decisively second best throughout apart from maybe in the opening minutes.

Spot on.
Second best to everything, lacked conviction in th etackle and invariably gave the ball away far too easily when we were in possession.
Write it off as a bad day at the office and at least we've got it out of our system for Tuesday.
 
Dyed Petya said:
bluerthanblue said:
Not sure about that one !

You may not be sure, but it's definitely right. The principle is that when the foul takes place, the player is making progress so it's an application of the advantage rule to let him get into the penalty area. If he's then inside the penalty area and fouled so that he can't make any more progress, it's a penalty. Simple.




So if I'm fouled outside the area, but my momentum means I fall in the box, because I 'can't make anymore progress', I get a pen?

I disagree mate.
 
I cancelled my Setanta subs because of this bastard and his anti City rants. Now he's all over ESPN and turns up on the BBC as well.

Time to cancel ESPN !
 
quiet_riot said:
Dyed Petya said:
You may not be sure, but it's definitely right. The principle is that when the foul takes place, the player is making progress so it's an application of the advantage rule to let him get into the penalty area. If he's then inside the penalty area and fouled so that he can't make any more progress, it's a penalty. Simple.




So if I'm fouled outside the area, but my momentum means I fall in the box, because I 'can't make anymore progress', I get a pen?

I disagree mate.

No, there's a difference between a foul where you're taken down by a foul committed in a single momentary action, and a foul committed by holding or shirt pulling, where the action is protracted.

With the first, if the contact is outside the area, that's where the foul has taken place and it's a free kick. With the second, then effectively there's an initial foul which the ref let's go because the player is making progress, but then a foul inside the area that constitutes a penalty.

The decision to award a penalty against Micah was perfectly within the rules, unfortunately. This idea that we were hard done by is utter bollocks.
 
Dyed Petya said:
quiet_riot said:
So if I'm fouled outside the area, but my momentum means I fall in the box, because I 'can't make anymore progress', I get a pen?

I disagree mate.

No, there's a difference between a foul where you're taken down by a foul committed in a single momentary action, and a foul committed by holding or shirt pulling, where the action is protracted.

With the first, if the contact is outside the area, that's where the foul has taken place and it's a free kick. With the second, then effectively there's an initial foul which the ref let's go because the player is making progress, but then a foul inside the area that constitutes a penalty.

The decision to award a penalty against Micah was perfectly within the rules, unfortunately. This idea that we were hard done by is utter bollocks.


I still disagree, it seems that rule is open to abuse, as a player could easily make it look like he cant make progress, or like today, nothing changes and the official gives it wherever he wants to.
 

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