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Manchester_lalala said:
I'd say more people play during the week than at the weekend.
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In over 30 years of playing cricket, and taking into consideration the number of leagues, I'd say that isnt true. The club I play for has 1 midweek team, 2 on Saturdays and 1 on Sundays. Some play all days but the simple fact is twice the people turn out on Saturday than Wednesday.

Edit: further to that the club I previously played for, didnt have a midweek team.
 
Paul Lake's Left Knee said:
If you play cricket midweek it is and always has been T20 cricket, its all that has ever been played, but on weekends when most people play, it is no way near the most played.
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I only play midweek cricket and have done for ten years, we've always played 20/20 but played very differently. It's only since T20 became a thing that I have noticed that midweek teams have changed styles more akin to what we see in T20 games on telly. Before it was way more conservative.
 
Paul Lake's Left Knee said:
That is a poor excuse for letting the oldest form of the game die. Its about money, nothing else, if the ICC can get China and USA interested they dont care about anything else, they are bastardising the sport to chase the money.
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True but look at it from the perspective of a potential cricket fan. T20 matches nearly always go down to the last few overs, and often to the last 2 or 3 balls like today. A 5 day match where the winner can be predicted half way through on occasion, can be incredibly tedious. Since my dad died I went off cricket for years but this tournament has caught my attention. Sometimes things need to change. Test cricket will never be as popular as it once was.
 
Benarbia_is_god said:
I only play midweek cricket and have done for ten years, we've always played 20/20 but played very differently. It's only since T20 became a thing that I have noticed that midweek teams have changed styles more akin to what we see in T20 games on telly. Before it was way more conservative.
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I agree with that, growing up, we only played midweek as the men played Sat and Sun and we played 20 over cricket, as I said that was over 30 years ago. Simple fact is there are more teams turning out at the weekend than in the week, born out by there being far more leagues at the weekend.
 
Those were some serious interviews from the Windies after the game. They played the whole tournament with a chip on their shoulder and they deserved to be the champions.

What I don't understand though is why on earth did England not bowl more full yorkers well outside off stump? Seemed like the Windies were stepping away every time and the English bowlers tried to follow them instead of getting the ball away from them. The couple of times they tried it it worked a treat. Madness.
 
dronefromsector7G said:
True but look at it from the perspective of a potential cricket fan. T20 matches nearly always go down to the last few overs, and often to the last 2 or 3 balls like today. A 5 day match where the winner can be predicted half way through on occasion, can be incredibly tedious. Since my dad died I went off cricket for years but this tournament has caught my attention. Sometimes things need to change. Test cricket will never be as popular as it once was.
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I am not saying t20 cricket should be banned or stopped, I am saying its a poor excuse to kill off other formats just because of the 'latest' fad (despite it being around for decades)
 
Manc in London said:
It's a bastardised form of cricket. It's not proper cricket if you can win a game without bowling a team out. It's a game designed to entertain the masses who have a low attention span and require constant stimulation.
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Yes that's why it's so popular. Enjoy watching a 5 day game in an empty stadium for a draw. As for the county 4 day game. Christ there are more stewards than fans.
 
Manc in London said:
Test cricket is played in empty stadiums? Not in England and Australia they are not. Have you tried getting tickets for a test match? 20:20 games, bar IPL and England are hardly sell outs.

The main reason for decline in test cricket audiences in India is because they are not that good anymore.

I cannot remember the figures but the majority of test matches do not end in a draw, and often finish within 4 days.
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I don't think we're getting anywhere here, we could go on for days. In my opinion, if there's a ball, a bat and some wickets, it's cricket. Yours is you believe you should have to bowl a team out to win, fair enough mate.


Paul Lake's Left Knee said:
In over 30 years of playing cricket, and taking into consideration the number of leagues, I'd say that isnt true. The club I play for has 1 midweek team, 2 on Saturdays and 1 on Sundays. Some play all days but the simple fact is twice the people turn out on Saturday than Wednesday.

Edit: further to that the club I previously played for, didnt have a midweek team.
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Just going off my experiene. Midweek cricket seems to have a lot more casual players, players who are shit but go down for a laugh. Come the weekend it's fifty overs and it's normally played by the half decent players who take an interest in playing. Where I live, there's far more interest in twenty over cricket than fifty over.
 
Money is important imo... Ipl and other leagues around the world have given more players opportunity to take cricket as profession to earn living. This would mean more people are encouraged to take sport.. I am sure rise of West indies after their sad decline is due to more opportunities provided to players in leagues like ipl, big bash, pcl, carrabian cricket league and South Africa's ram salm trophy.. While I agree we should preserve test cricket too.. I think it's time to scrap 50 over cricket
 
Paul Lake's Left Knee said:
I agree with that, growing up, we only played midweek as the men played Sat and Sun and we played 20 over cricket, as I said that was over 30 years ago. Simple fact is there are more teams turning out at the weekend than in the week, born out by there being far more leagues at the weekend.
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Yes totally agree. Our areas midweek league has 10 teams (Compared to 30 plus teams playing on a saturday in the same area) . Half of them are third teams sent by the bigger teams, the rest and the team I play for are made up of small villages who can't sustain a team to play at a more competitive level. We've only been going for 25 years but if it wasn't for midweek cricket we probably wouldn't have a team. Midweek cricket is made up of old men, kids and shit players who play for a laugh. I love nothing better than a game of cricket on a sunny Wednesday evening, it's perfect.
 
Manchester_lalala said:
I don't think we're getting anywhere here, we could go on for days. In my opinion, if there's a ball, a bat and some wickets, it's cricket. Yours is you believe you should have to bowl a team out to win, fair enough mate.




Just going off my experiene. Midweek cricket seems to have a lot more casual players, players who are shit but go down for a laugh. Come the weekend it's fifty overs and it's normally played by the half decent players who take an interest in playing. Where I live, there's far more interest in twenty over cricket than fifty over.
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I am going off my experience as well and am talking about organised league cricket which there is far more of at weekends not friendly games, and whilst some of the cricket at weekends is 50 overs, there are still other formats played, probably more and not just limited overs, with its restrictions on fielding and number of overs 1 bowler can bowl.

I started this off saying I was a dying breed, I know my position isnt popular but I dont care, I like what I like, just as you do, and I dont want t20 banned or stopped, I just think its a shame that the purest form of the game is suffering because all the money is being pumped into the latest fad by the Indian TV companies, which isnt being used to promote all areas of the game. I accept what BigOscar said about there not being a proper world cup for test cricket and it suffering for that, but again that is because the Indian cricket board would rather promote and pump the money into the IPL than anything else.
 
Well done to the Windies. However they sum up modern day cricket.
Gayle can earn big bucks playing T20 around the world. The others will know they can do the same now. That's why they aint interested in test cricket.
I heard the other day AB de Villiers get £180k per year playing for South Africa, but can more than 5 times that playing in the IPL.
Test cricket pisses on hit and giggles of T20. I would love to see the West Indies actually get a competitive team in that format instead of being mullered by all and sundry inside 4 days.
 
Pubteam Lomas said:
Well done to the Windies. However they sum up modern day cricket.
Gayle can earn big bucks playing T20 around the world. The others will know they can do the same now. That's why they aint interested in test cricket.
I heard the other day AB de Villiers get £180k per year playing for South Africa, but can more than 5 times that playing in the IPL.
Test cricket pisses on hit and giggles of T20. I would love to see the West Indies actually get a competitive team in that format instead of being mullered by all and sundry inside 4 days.
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Not going to happen, test cricket is dead in the Windies now. They are just going to specialise in T20 and make it their "thing". Similar is happening in Fiji now, they are slowly sacrificing their 15s rugby to play more 7s as they are better at it.
 
Benarbia_is_god said:
Not going to happen, test cricket is dead in the Windies now. They are just going to specialise in T20 and make it their "thing". Similar is happening in Fiji now, they are slowly sacrificing their 15s rugby to play more 7s as they are better at it.
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I think the issue isnt helped by their board, who are constantly in dispute with the team and ban players, the natural reaction of Windies cricket fans is to back the team and the players and not the suits. A lot of the issues are because the Windies generally played test cricket around the time of the IPL, our tour over there is usually around now and it eats into the IPL, players want to be released to play in that. I can see why the players want to play t20 and its all about money, who would want to put in 20 times the effort for less reward in any walk of life?? If they could sort out releasing the players to earn the money, or better still that money was better distributed and not just to used to inflate the IPL's importance, then you would see the appetite return. There is still a deep love for the game and test cricket, in that region.
 
Another interesting point is that there's loads of players themselves who don't enjoy playing test cricket. My mate plays for Durham, he says loads of them hate it and find it boring.
 
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