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chabal said:
jay_mcfc said:
without a dream said:
It seems like I'm the only one who thinks the parody account was actually pretty funny. KP retweeted it several times too, obviously when KP decided it wasn't funny anymore then action should have been taken but then again to quote him maybe he should 'get a thicker skin'.

I think it was more when he realised/found out that the author was a friend of Broad's and he was very obviously getting information from within the dressing room. Then he found out Bresnan, Swann and Broad all had access to the account on their phones, so I presume that was the tipping point and quite rightly that is crossing the line.

I had understood that none of the players contributed to the account and that all the information in the tweets was in the public domain anyway.

Go and google what Alec Stewart said yesterday. Not that that's needed, it'a always been obvious where it came from. It's only the ECB via the media that have convinced people otherwise. Until Stewart yesterday.
 
chabal said:
jay_mcfc said:
without a dream said:
It seems like I'm the only one who thinks the parody account was actually pretty funny. KP retweeted it several times too, obviously when KP decided it wasn't funny anymore then action should have been taken but then again to quote him maybe he should 'get a thicker skin'.

I think it was more when he realised/found out that the author was a friend of Broad's and he was very obviously getting information from within the dressing room. Then he found out Bresnan, Swann and Broad all had access to the account on their phones, so I presume that was the tipping point and quite rightly that is crossing the line.

I had understood that none of the players contributed to the account and that all the information in the tweets was in the public domain anyway.

They say they weren't involved (predictably). The bloke who set it up is publicly saying they weren't involved (predictably). Alec Stewart says that the bloke who set it up (who is a personal friend of Stuart Broad) told him that they were involved.
 
Lancet Fluke said:
chabal said:
jay_mcfc said:
I think it was more when he realised/found out that the author was a friend of Broad's and he was very obviously getting information from within the dressing room. Then he found out Bresnan, Swann and Broad all had access to the account on their phones, so I presume that was the tipping point and quite rightly that is crossing the line.

I had understood that none of the players contributed to the account and that all the information in the tweets was in the public domain anyway.

They say they weren't involved (predictably). The bloke who set it up is publicly saying they weren't involved (predictably). Alec Stewart says that the bloke who set it up (who is a personal friend of Stuart Broad) told him that they were involved.

It's up to him and KP to provide some proof then isn't it?
 
without a dream said:
Lancet Fluke said:
chabal said:
I had understood that none of the players contributed to the account and that all the information in the tweets was in the public domain anyway.

They say they weren't involved (predictably). The bloke who set it up is publicly saying they weren't involved (predictably). Alec Stewart says that the bloke who set it up (who is a personal friend of Stuart Broad) told him that they were involved.

It's up to him and KP to provide some proof then isn't it?

Not really. There is no litigation involved so why does anyone have to "prove" anything? I know who I believe though and I am not particularly a fan of Pietersen, it just seems fairly obvious that Broad and his pals were being cunts.
 
jay_mcfc said:
chabal said:
jay_mcfc said:
I think it was more when he realised/found out that the author was a friend of Broad's and he was very obviously getting information from within the dressing room. Then he found out Bresnan, Swann and Broad all had access to the account on their phones, so I presume that was the tipping point and quite rightly that is crossing the line.

I had understood that none of the players contributed to the account and that all the information in the tweets was in the public domain anyway.

Go and google what Alec Stewart said yesterday. Not that that's needed, it'a always been obvious where it came from. It's only the ECB via the media that have convinced people otherwise. Until Stewart yesterday.

From today's Guardian;

Stewart said on BBC 5 Live that he was told by Bailey that Tim Bresnan, Stuart Broad and Graeme Swann had access to the account and that he informed the ECB. But Bailey told Guardian Sport that this was inaccurate: “When I spoke to Alec Stewart I actually said others might know it was me doing the tweets. I have a witness to that conversation.” He is categorical in his denial that any of the England players tweeted from the account. “They 100% did not tweet from it,” he said.

I guess we will never know for sure.
 
Lancet Fluke said:
without a dream said:
Lancet Fluke said:
They say they weren't involved (predictably). The bloke who set it up is publicly saying they weren't involved (predictably). Alec Stewart says that the bloke who set it up (who is a personal friend of Stuart Broad) told him that they were involved.

It's up to him and KP to provide some proof then isn't it?

Not really. There is no litigation involved so why does anyone have to "prove" anything? I know who I believe though and I am not particularly a fan of Pietersen, it just seems fairly obvious that Broad and his pals were being cunts.

I imagine they bitched about KP to Bailey when they were out with him, I find it really hard to believe they were sat on their phones tweeting from the account though.

EDIT. Also worth noting that KP and Stewart name different people as being behind the account, pretty hard to separate fact and fiction in this, from both sides.
 
chabal said:
jay_mcfc said:
chabal said:
I had understood that none of the players contributed to the account and that all the information in the tweets was in the public domain anyway.

Go and google what Alec Stewart said yesterday. Not that that's needed, it'a always been obvious where it came from. It's only the ECB via the media that have convinced people otherwise. Until Stewart yesterday.

From today's Guardian;

Stewart said on BBC 5 Live that he was told by Bailey that Tim Bresnan, Stuart Broad and Graeme Swann had access to the account and that he informed the ECB. But Bailey told Guardian Sport that this was inaccurate: “When I spoke to Alec Stewart I actually said others might know it was me doing the tweets. I have a witness to that conversation.” He is categorical in his denial that any of the England players tweeted from the account. “They 100% did not tweet from it,” he said.

I guess we will never know for sure.

Really? Someone as dignified as Alec Stewart felt so strongly about it he had to go to the ECB, and later tell the media, yet we don't know who to believe out of him and the weasel protecting his friends?
 
without a dream said:
Lancet Fluke said:
without a dream said:
It's up to him and KP to provide some proof then isn't it?

Not really. There is no litigation involved so why does anyone have to "prove" anything? I know who I believe though and I am not particularly a fan of Pietersen, it just seems fairly obvious that Broad and his pals were being c**ts.

I imagine they bitched about KP to Bailey when they were out with him, I find it really hard to believe they were sat on their phones tweeting from the account though.

Not sure there's a huge amount of difference in terms of why Pietersen would be offended. If they were deliberately feeding Bailey stuff to put on there or literally typing it in themselves is pretty irrelevant imo and we will never know the truth I suppose. It is still a different situation from the James Milner one for example where I assume it isn't coming from within the dressing room and is just some random person making stuff up, clearly that is less personally offensive.
 
jay_mcfc said:
chabal said:
jay_mcfc said:
Go and google what Alec Stewart said yesterday. Not that that's needed, it'a always been obvious where it came from. It's only the ECB via the media that have convinced people otherwise. Until Stewart yesterday.

From today's Guardian;

Stewart said on BBC 5 Live that he was told by Bailey that Tim Bresnan, Stuart Broad and Graeme Swann had access to the account and that he informed the ECB. But Bailey told Guardian Sport that this was inaccurate: “When I spoke to Alec Stewart I actually said others might know it was me doing the tweets. I have a witness to that conversation.” He is categorical in his denial that any of the England players tweeted from the account. “They 100% did not tweet from it,” he said.

I guess we will never know for sure.

Really? Someone as dignified as Alec Stewart felt so strongly about it he had to go to the ECB, and later tell the media, yet we don't know who to believe out of him and the weasel protecting his friends?

He misquoted?

Bailey says he has a witness - who knows?

As has been reported previously none of the parody account tweets referred to information that was not already in the public domain.

That does not prove anything either way but it lends some substance to the view that only Bailey accessed the account.
 
Lancet Fluke said:
without a dream said:
Lancet Fluke said:
Not really. There is no litigation involved so why does anyone have to "prove" anything? I know who I believe though and I am not particularly a fan of Pietersen, it just seems fairly obvious that Broad and his pals were being c**ts.

I imagine they bitched about KP to Bailey when they were out with him, I find it really hard to believe they were sat on their phones tweeting from the account though.

Not sure there's a huge amount of difference in terms of why Pietersen would be offended. If they were deliberately feeding Bailey stuff to put on there or literally typing it in themselves is pretty irrelevant imo and we will never know the truth I suppose. It is still a different situation from the James Milner one for example where I assume it isn't coming from within the dressing room and is just some random person making stuff up, clearly that is less personally offensive.

I guess not. Who's not complained about a colleague away from work though? Micah and Rodwell both follow 'boring Milner' and Micah and Lescott used to frequently take the piss out of him in interviews.

Lots of the tweets fro what I can remember were just playing up to his ego and love of the IPL, not things that seemed to have come from the dressing room. I did say earlier though, that as soon as KP takes offence to it it should have become a disciplinary matter, I don't know whether the ECB ever looked into it.

It's a shame we're all talking about I said/he said though rather than some of the more serious accusations like the treatment of Trott.
 
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