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Good win but still some nagging questions about the future of the bowling. Where is the next wicket-taking spinner? Bess never bowled in this Test at all. Who is going to replace Anderson (37) and who is going to replace Broad (34)? Archer looks good at times but no wickets again, and can Stokes be relied upon consistently to bowl because of his fitness issues. Ashes in November 2021 and I’m not really seeing the bigger progression to that end in terms of developing a bowling attack.
 
I think even @ancoats with his Richie Benaud playbook might give Root a bit of praise!

not today hahaha

west indies was poor and just give their wickets away ?? why does a full days cricket seem hard to bat with 10 wickets
plus the weather being on and off you think you would its easy to bat a full day when bowlers are coming on and off and finding a trying to find a rhythm. michael holding hit the nail on the head when saying just ask the batsman to bat a hour each and it should not be that hard when just not chasing a win ? slow the game down hold the bowlers up check your guard do something to kill some time ??

funny thing is we are still talking about broad and anderson going to the ashes and being our main bowlers hahaha fuck me does nobody learn at ECB or skysports yes in england but over there not a chance ? the kookaburra ball and the wickets the heat and the good aussies batters both will crumble again and go for runs ?

woods and archer will be the main bowlers over there and broad or anderson will have to sit out and be a bit part bowler
 
How do you get the best out of Stuart Broad?
You make him angry by dropping him.
Irrespective of his exclusion from the first test side, Broad has been excellent for a while now. My memory is laughably bad but I think I saw somewhere that he’s taken the most test wickets since 2019.
 
Irrespective of his exclusion from the first test side, Broad has been excellent for a while now. My memory is laughably bad but I think I saw somewhere that he’s taken the most test wickets since 2019.

dropped for first test match was a major mistake by root and the ECB and the west indies was a patched up team and only had one good test in them fitness wise ? the 3 test series was to much for the west indies in a short space of time, england did not really need to dig deep and the weather in the other 2 test after losing the first was our only test in trying to win (did we have enough time) to take 20 wickets

root is a poor captain in the field and bowling options and setting fields is a puzzle ? but he will get out of jail because the west indies was poor and unfit to tour 3 quick test because of covid-19 and only having a small selection to pick from
 
dropped for first test match was a major mistake by root and the ECB and the west indies was a patched up team and only had one good test in them fitness wise ? the 3 test series was to much for the west indies in a short space of time, england did not really need to dig deep and the weather in the other 2 test after losing the first was our only test in trying to win (did we have enough time) to take 20 wickets

root is a poor captain in the field and bowling options and setting fields is a puzzle ? but he will get out of jail because the west indies was poor and unfit to tour 3 quick test because of covid-19 and only having a small selection to pick from

Root wasn’t involved with the first test? Did he shag your wife?
 
Root isn’t perfect, but there is no one better at the moment, so he’ll be captain for the next few years.

anybody can be a better option than root ?

its easy to take any sort of credit for the 2.1 vs west indies and really they was not up to the challenge or fit enough for 3 quick test matches, after losing the first test we struggled in the 2nd test when time was tight and down to the last hour and won ? the 3rd test was a shoe in and the west indies was done stick a fork in them and dip your bread

mark my words when Pakistan turn up next week they should be in better shape and if the weather holds will be a lot tighter than the west indies, then the ashes come up very soon people will be jumping all over root when we get white wash 5.0 again
 
anybody can be a better option than root ?

its easy to take any sort of credit for the 2.1 vs west indies and really they was not up to the challenge or fit enough for 3 quick test matches, after losing the first test we struggled in the 2nd test when time was tight and down to the last hour and won ? the 3rd test was a shoe in and the west indies was done stick a fork in them and dip your bread

mark my words when Pakistan turn up next week they should be in better shape and if the weather holds will be a lot tighter than the west indies, then the ashes come up very soon people will be jumping all over root when we get white wash 5.0 again

Who would be better than Root? Stokes didn’t prove he was. Burns, Sibley, Pope and Crawley are too new.
Butler might be dropped and already keeping.
Bowlers generally aren’t picked as captains and we are rotating them anyway.

There isn’t even a credible candidate to take over from Root currently, hence I suggested he will be captain for a fair few years to come.
 
Who would be better than Root? Stokes didn’t prove he was. Burns, Sibley, Pope and Crawley are too new.
Butler might be dropped and already keeping.
Bowlers generally aren’t picked as captains and we are rotating them anyway.

There isn’t even a credible candidate to take over from Root currently, hence I suggested he will be captain for a fair few years to come.

they would be better captains if they would be give more time ? the like stokes or burns or broad why not ?
roots has shown over and over again the weakness when facing the better teams, he struggles in working out a system or field settings or a bowling plan ? the ashes over seas england and the ECB never learn and i would say root is nailed on captain ? broad anderson main bowling strikers

all 3 struggle in the last ashes tour down under and we are still hanging our hope on them 3 to bring home the ashes hahahahahah
 
mark my words when Pakistan turn up next week they should be in better shape and if the weather holds will be a lot tighter than the west indies, then the ashes come up very soon people will be jumping all over root when we get white wash 5.0 again

They’ve only had their intra-squad game at Derbyshire since they walloped Bangladesh in early February, and even though they are better than the West Indies, England do have the benefit of having played three Tests.

Agree on the bowling points. It seems that attention has been focused purely on resolving the top order issues and not on who opens in Brisbane next November. Broad is now undroppable and Anderson will presumably play next week and perhaps give way in Southampton. Yet if Pakistan win/draw the first Test, there’ll be a clamour to keep them in so as to win this series. All a bit short-sighted.
 
There isn’t even a credible candidate to take over from Root currently, hence I suggested he will be captain for a fair few years to come.

That may hinge on how well England fare against Australia next winter. Lose three consecutive series against them, especially if it’s nowhere near close again, and his position as captain might be untenable.
 
That may hinge on how well England fare against Australia next winter. Lose three consecutive series against them, especially if it’s nowhere near close again, and his position as captain might be untenable.

True, but as of now, there are no credible candidates to take Root’s captaincy.
 
They’ve only had their intra-squad game at Derbyshire since they walloped Bangladesh in early February, and even though they are better than the West Indies, England do have the benefit of having played three Tests.

Agree on the bowling points. It seems that attention has been focused purely on resolving the top order issues and not on who opens in Brisbane next November. Broad is now undroppable and Anderson will presumably play next week and perhaps give way in Southampton. Yet if Pakistan win/draw the first Test, there’ll be a clamour to keep them in so as to win this series. All a bit short-sighted.

all great points matey
Pakistan will be up for this and have some world class as well ? yes the weather and swing will make anybody look normal when broad and anderson and woaks gets going, but pakistan have swing and reverse and always have a spinner and we all know how england play spin hahhaah
 
they would be better captains if they would be give more time ? the like stokes or burns or broad why not ?
roots has shown over and over again the weakness when facing the better teams, he struggles in working out a system or field settings or a bowling plan ? the ashes over seas england and the ECB never learn and i would say root is nailed on captain ? broad anderson main bowling strikers

all 3 struggle in the last ashes tour down under and we are still hanging our hope on them 3 to bring home the ashes hahahahahah

Stokes does too much already. Possible burn out at destroying of our best player. (See IT Botham)
Burns has no experience of captaincy and very little in test match cricket.
Broad is a hot head and thinks everything is out. He’d burn all 3 reviews in his first over.

I will go back to my point of their being no credible candidates to take over from Root in our current set up.
 
That may hinge on how well England fare against Australia next winter. Lose three consecutive series against them, especially if it’s nowhere near close again, and his position as captain might be untenable.

its should have been questioned on the last tour to Australia ? it was the worst i have seen in years and the fight was toothless
 
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