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so what's the alternative for a player being out of their crease?
If they can't be run out, then there has to be an alternative penalty for it. Presumably it would still require the bowler to take the bails off, and I'd expect there to be a whole lot more attempts at it with more reviews.
 
Just seen the mankad dismissal and that’s dreadful, the batter clearly thought that the bowler was well into her delivery, there was very little advantage being gained. Hopefully the law will be changed but I don’t like the idea of a runs penalty as bowlers will start looking for it too often. I think it should be up to the umpires to give a warning and if it continues then give them out, a bit like warnings given to bowlers for running on the pitch where they are taken out of the attack. Maybe even allow the bowling team to use appeals to check for it. It might need an extra line which a batter cannot be in front of when the ball is released.
 
Citizen of Legoland said:
Just seen the mankad dismissal and that’s dreadful, the batter clearly thought that the bowler was well into her delivery, there was very little advantage being gained. Hopefully the law will be changed but I don’t like the idea of a runs penalty as bowlers will start looking for it too often. I think it should be up to the umpires to give a warning and if it continues then give them out, a bit like warnings given to bowlers for running on the pitch where they are taken out of the attack. Maybe even allow the bowling team to use appeals to check for it. It might need an extra line which a batter cannot be in front of when the ball is released.
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The thing is that there already is a line that the batter can't be in front of - the crease.
Warnings would have to be team warnings rather than by player, and to start with they'd know they had a free shot where they wouldn't be out.
Difficult to know what to do about it.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
The thing is that there already is a line that the batter can't be in front of - the crease.
Warnings would have to be team warnings rather than by player, and to start with they'd know they had a free shot where they wouldn't be out.
Difficult to know what to do about it.
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Yes I agree it’s difficult. In this instance, in full speed, it does look like the batter has attempted to keep their bat in the crease and has just lost concentration for a moment. I think if a batter is timing their movement with when a bowler would normally deliver the ball then that’s fair and Dean seems to be doing that to me. A warning seems a better way to me but still can be against a player rather than a team. Deciding games this way is bad for the sport.
 
I would be fuming if a bowler did that to me. Bit of a cunts trick. The tactic is to stop bowling and show the ball to stop the batter encroaching and even then its not really on, but all accept point made and move on.
 
An easier solution would be a deduction of 2 runs everytime a bolwer manages a mankad, nothing more because it does feel against spirit of the game
 
I’ll agree it doesn’t really look or feel right. But there’s no logic to why it shouldn’t happen really, if the batter doesn’t stay in the crease until after the ball is released. You could argue that’s a form of cheating in itself.

The traditionalist in me is saying they should give a warning first. But then I’m thinking what sense does it make for it to be totally acceptable to try and knock a batters head off with the ball but unsporting to execute a totally legitimate dismissal?
 
Stephen230 said:
I’ll agree it doesn’t really look or feel right. But there’s no logic to why it shouldn’t happen really, if the batter doesn’t stay in the crease until after the ball is released. You could argue that’s a form of cheating in itself.

The traditionalist in me is saying they should give a warning first. But then I’m thinking what sense does it make for it to be totally acceptable to try and knock a batters head off with the ball but unsporting to execute a totally legitimate dismissal?
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If the first run was discounted as one short, then I think the problem goes away. It wouldn’t be in the batting team’s interest to steal 6 inches.

It shouldn't be a form of dismissal for me as the ball isn’t live.

It‘s similar to footballers jostling before a corner is taken.
 
Did it as a kid (more than 30 yrs ago). I genuinely didn't know there was a rule or it was deemed unsportsmanlike.
I just thought the batter was takin the piss as I'd get no-balled if I was that far down the track.
The umpire asked the captain if he wanted to uphold my appeal, which he didn't.
I was blazing and said my bit. (I was a very competitive teenager!!!)
I think now it's shit BUT I can see the bowlers reason behind it.
Worst part is I think the skipper had it planned.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
If the first run was discounted as one short, then I think the problem goes away. It wouldn’t be in the batting team’s interest to steal 6 inches.

It shouldn't be a form of dismissal for me as the ball isn’t live.

It‘s similar to footballers jostling before a corner is taken.
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Why create a rule when a perfectly acceptable one is already in place? Don’t leave the crease until you’ve seen the ball has been released. Simple. No good ( literally ) crying about it later.
 
Stephen230 said:
Why create a rule when a perfectly acceptable one is already in place? Don’t leave the crease until you’ve seen the ball has been released. Simple. Not good ( literally ) crying about it later.
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Because I think it’s a silly rule. The ball is dead until it has been bowled.

Using your logic there, no law could ever be changed if there was a perfectly acceptable one in place. Seems a bit folly to me.
 
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