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[Edghill OG]

Stuart Broad has no regrets over not walking at Trent Bridge

Seamer looks back on the controversy of 2013, and the sequence of events it kicked off

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Think he made the point a few of the Aussies nicked the ball and didn’t walk in that series either too.

The Aussies are notorious not walking. I remember Gilchrist (who to his credit always walked) saying the rest of the dressing room couldn't understand it and even disliked his sportsmanship.

The Broad delivery is highlighted so much as it's probably the most blatant edge I've ever seen that wasn't given by the umpire.

 

[Postman Pep]

Of all these precedents that are not comparable this is pretty desperate ..... Murali didn't even wait for the ball to be returned !

 

[heslops barnet]

The Aussies are notorious not walking. I remember Gilchrist (who to his credit always walked) saying the rest of the dressing room couldn't understand it and even disliked his sportsmanship.

The Broad delivery is highlighted so much as it's probably the most blatant edge I've ever seen that wasn't given by the umpire.

More blame on the umpire than Broady

 

[peter.evans]

So a number of situations where the situation was indeed “end of over” right there in the rules . That’s why it is not in the game’s interest or unsporting behaviour what the Aussies did , basically you just don’t go there but the Aussies did to manipulate the situation. The Aussies could have easily just warned Bairstow or even called him back but they didn’t which is why the situation is still toxic for many this morning. It is 100% cheating but bizarrely within the rules of cricket an area where 95% of cricket captains would not venture but Cummins chose too . Sadly we now live in a world where cheating is applauded by many ,and many no longer have morals or dignity in today’s world nor sportsmanship.

Absolutely spot on ! The other thing that nobody seems to have mentioned as far as i can see, is that what the keeper did should be against the rules and deemed as dangerous play. I know he only threw the ball underarm but if he had got that wrong and Bairstow had turned towards him he could have caught him in the eye and caused a serious injury to a player who was not watching. Having played a lot of amateur cricket over the years I have seen many an over enthusiastic keeper constantly flinging the ball at the stumps for no reason or annoyingly not being able to resist knocking the bails off " just in case ", etc, and it really gets on my nerves. The umpires should discipline keepers for doing that, it is totally against the spirit of the game and also wastes a lot of time. The keeper, Cummins and the umpires are culpable for what happened there and the cheating Roos should be ashamed of themselves, at very least Cummins should have called Bairstow back. Whilst in no way condoning any crowd misbehaviour, you can see what this kind of blatant cheating can lead to, in this case things could have got very ugly, thanks to the behaviour of these cheats ! The umpire had started to reach in his pocket for a cap or something for the bowler, surely that is a signal for end of over too !?

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

So a number of situations where the situation was indeed “end of over” right there in the rules . That’s why it is not in the game’s interest or unsporting behaviour what the Aussies did , basically you just don’t go there but the Aussies did to manipulate the situation. The Aussies could have easily just warned Bairstow or even called him back but they didn’t which is why the situation is still toxic for many this morning. It is 100% cheating but bizarrely within the rules of cricket an area where 95% of cricket captains would not venture but Cummins chose too . Sadly we now live in a world where cheating is applauded by many ,and many no longer have morals or dignity in today’s world nor sportsmanship.

He gave a small clue in his post match interview when he referenced the Starc catch. The interviewer did not pursue it at all. Cummins should have been directly asked if that catch led to some perceived grievance they wanted to level up, but Sky just left it

 

[Gundoggin]

He gave a small clue in his post match interview when he referenced the Starc catch. The interviewer did not pursue it at all. Cummins should have been directly asked if that catch led to some perceived grievance they wanted to level up, but Sky just left it

As mentioned earlier in the thread the Sky commentators and pundits were pathetic and actually pampered the Aussie audience tuned in .

 

[M18CTID]

I don't know that's why I am asking

Well it was subsequently explained to you by @homerdog

 

[Gundoggin]

 

[Jesus H Gabz]

Absolutely spot on ! The other thing that nobody seems to have mentioned as far as i can see, is that what the keeper did should be against the rules and deemed as dangerous play. I know he only threw the ball underarm but if he had got that wrong and Bairstow had turned towards him he could have caught him in the eye and caused a serious injury to a player who was not watching. Having played a lot of amateur cricket over the years I have seen many an over enthusiastic keeper constantly flinging the ball at the stumps for no reason or annoyingly not being able to resist knocking the bails off " just in case ", etc, and it really gets on my nerves. The umpires should discipline keepers for doing that, it is totally against the spirit of the game and also wastes a lot of time. The keeper, Cummins and the umpires are culpable for what happened there and the cheating Roos should be ashamed of themselves, at very least Cummins should have called Bairstow back. Whilst in no way condoning any crowd misbehaviour, you can see what this kind of blatant cheating can lead to, in this case things could have got very ugly, thanks to the behaviour of these cheats ! The umpire had started to reach in his pocket for a cap or something for the bowler, surely that is a signal for end of over too !?

Maybe Bairstow should just go full coconut shy at the stumps next game, every ball of an over

 

[bigstanhibbert]

Well it was subsequently explained to you by @homerdog

Just because the ball is in the keeper's hands it doesn't mean that it has finally settled. If that was the case, then stumping will not be possible at all.

Three times JB left his crease. Carey watched him every time. The fourth time Carey caught the ball & threw at the stumps in the same action. Out. Had Carey missed the stumps the batsman may have taken overthrow runs.

Also: 20.2 Ball finally settled Whether the ball is finally settled or not is a matter for the umpire alone to decide