jimharri
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Over 40 runs put on by this pair now; annoying.
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Nightmare Walking
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It was out.No; I think one bail out of it's groove is fine.
MillionMilesAway
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My understanding is that the ball has to be in his hand when he removes the bails. I don't think it has to be the ball that actually makes contact with the bails (the keeper's glove is okay?), but the ball has to be in that hand, not the other hand.
If the wicket is broken before the ball is in hand (this includes an overthrow scenario where the first throw hits the stumps), then a stump should be removed with the hand(s) holding the ball.
I've missed all this! Just caught the multishot angle they'd put together. Am I right that they couldn't tell quickly whether both bails were off before the batsmen made his ground? And that Bairstow had knocked one bail off before the ball arrived?
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Pretty much. The third umpire was looking to see when the second bail was removed but Smith looked in to me, just.If the wicket is broken before the ball is in hand (this includes an overthrow scenario where the first throw hits the stumps), then a stump should be removed with the hand(s) holding the ball.
I've missed all this! Just caught the multishot angle they'd put together. Am I right that they couldn't tell quickly whether both bails were off before the batsmen made his ground? And that Bairstow had knocked one bail off before the ball arrived?
Gabriel
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A decent knock for Smith, but save for his first-innings ton at Lord’s, this has been a comparatively disappointing series for him.
MillionMilesAway
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Pretty much. The third umpire was looking to see when the second bail was removed but Smith looked in to me, just.
Looks like it was an impossible call within the 3rd umpire remit.
MillionMilesAway
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A decent knock for Smith, but save for his first-innings ton at Lord’s, this has been a comparatively disappointing series for him.
Curious place to be caught off a leading edge.
Maybe they want a shot at England tonight! 66 overs so far today? was the run out a long stoppage?
jimharri
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I always thought that one bail out of it's groove was sufficient?Pretty much. The third umpire was looking to see when the second bail was removed but Smith looked in to me, just.
xgorton
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Another match drawn by Lancs.
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The first bail was out of its groove before Bairstow took the ball in his glove so it has to be discounted. If he had dislodged both bails before taking the ball he would have had to remove a stump from the ground.I always thought that one bail out of it's groove was sufficient?
MillionMilesAway
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Murphy's doing a Wood - never hit a six and now has 3.
MillionMilesAway
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I always thought that one bail out of it's groove was sufficient?
The first bail was knocked out before the ball arrived so doesn't count. At that point you have to dislodge the other one or take a stump out.
jimharri
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Yeah; I wasn't counting the first bail. And I was at work, so I didn't see the incident on the telly. But in a normal, run of the mill stumping/run out, is one bail removed sufficient?The first bail was out of its groove before Bairstow took the ball in his glove so it has to be discounted. If he had dislodged both bails before taking the ball he would have had to remove a stump from the ground.
MillionMilesAway
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yes.Yeah; I wasn't counting the first bail. And I was at work, so I didn't see the incident on the telly. But in a normal, run of the mill stumping/run out, is one bail removed sufficient?
You'll sometimes see a fielder just knock one bail off when the batsman is out by a mile or has given up.
jimharri
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I was hoping we might have had a 30 or 40 run lead earlier on. So much for that.