MillionMilesAway
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Ha, might be a bit harsh!
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Ha, might be a bit harsh!
They should bring in the duckworth and Lewis rules for test match cricket
D/L relies on there being a fixed number of target overs, so you can't adjust it for test cricket.
If it could be done I think it would have been.
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Yes I think that's why permanent subs might help as they're managing (mainly fast bowlers) to last 5 days. I'd stipulate that the fielding sub can only play for ten minutes or 12 deliveries (enough time for a dump), then either use a sub or play with a man down. Can play as long as they want with ten men but stick with the rule that they can't bowl for a certain time after they come back on.I don't know why the over rate is now allowed to drop so far. Allowances are one thing, but there seems to be no will to do anything about it. There will always be some delays with reviews, head hits, etc, but that should be fairly obvious rather than reviewed after the match and without much public notice.
Subs I have some problems with as they have been abused by quite a lot of sides, hence the limitations now. Flintoff used to bowl 5 overs and then go off for a 20 minute massage - an absolutely deliberate abuse of the rules.
I do agree that the players won't be able to keep up longer days - just make it 90 overs again, by 6.30 in England.
D/L relies on there being a fixed number of target overs, so you can't adjust it for test cricket.
If it could be done I think it would have been.
There is a supposed fix 90 overs a day if you get each team playing a full innings am sure something could be invented?!
Don’t forget it there was something else before the Duckford and Lewis method was brought in!
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I still don't rate Duckworth Lewis Stern. I would change all limited overs games to two innings per team of 5 wickets and half the overs (batters don't bat twice if out though). Put the powerplays at the start of the second innings. Whoever is ahead after the first innings wins if the game doesn't complete, if the first innings can't be completed it's a draw, if you're behind after the first innings you can choose to carry on batting. The tactics needed would be fascinating and would iron out the benefits of chasing in certain conditions.There is a supposed fix 90 overs a day if you get each team playing a full innings am sure something could be invented?!
Don’t forget it there was something else before the Duckford and Lewis method was brought in!
Don't know why things have to be so complicated with DLS.
I still don't rate Duckworth Lewis Stern. I would change all limited overs games to two innings per team of 5 wickets and half the overs (batters don't bat twice if out though). Put the powerplays at the start of the second innings. Whoever is ahead after the first innings wins if the game doesn't complete, if the first innings can't be completed it's a draw, if you're behind after the first innings you can choose to carry on batting. The tactics needed would be fascinating and would iron out the benefits of chasing in certain conditions.
Don't know why things have to be so complicated with DLS.
A new method would have to be thought up because you have to take into consideration the new ball the pitch if you win the toss if it’s sunny or cloudy these are all advances and disadvantages of test match cricket! Test match cricket need to start thinking out the box now that one day game has changed unrecognisable in the last 10/20 years! Test match cricket has hardly changed since it became a sport!
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I don't think test cricket has to change too much. The batsmen have got more powerful but the bowlers need a hand in levelling up. Perhaps bring the new ball in at 60 overs AND allow them to use the old ball for spinners? That would give the batters something to think about.A new method would have to be thought up because you have to take into consideration the new ball the pitch if you win the toss if it’s sunny or cloudy these are all advances and disadvantages of test match cricket! Test match cricket need to start thinking out the box now that one day game has changed unrecognisable in the last 10/20 years! Test match cricket has hardly changed since it became a sport!
Yeah, i agree about that but wouldn’t be against a reserve day when a day or 2 has been wiped out due to rain. Can’t see that happening though but not getting the overs in on good days definitely needs sorting. Fans are paying a lot of money and never seeing 90 overs.I agree - an end to the heroic survival would be bad for the game. I'm thinking of that match at Cardiff late in the evening sun - Anderson and Panesar.
The England captain (Strauss, Wisden tells me) tried wasting time by sending some gloves out and the England batsmen told the carrier to clear off, they were fine as they were.
MillionMilesAway
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each circumstance would be different - it was just an example of a draw.Yeah, i agree about that but wouldn’t be against a reserve day when a day or 2 has been wiped out due to rain. Can’t see that happening though but not getting the overs in on good days definitely needs sorting. Fans are paying a lot of money and never seeing 90 overs.
I assume it did rain for some of it though as under 400 overs were played (according to cricinfo.
A counterargument would be the need to get contracts for staff and security for another day.
melrose40yarder
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They have to do something about the over rate as fining them a percentage of the match fee is not working.I like 20 penalty runs an over.