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kippaxwarrior said:
Bowled out twice in 79.5 overs. Fastest since 1928 when then were bowled out twice in 76.3 overs

It was actually Don Bradman's debut at Brisbane and England won by 675 runs!!!

The actual record is 53.5 overs by South Africa vs Australia in 1932.

There's also been 28 instances of a test match ending within 2 days. Before Perth though the last one was in 1912
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They’re ruining Test cricket now. I used to look forward to following England on radio/TV on these winter tours but now I rarely bother. I can see from England’s second innings that the openers went hard at it batting at 70+ strike rate (unless it was particularly wayward bowling), and that’s fine, if you don’t lose too many early wickets. It’s a 50/50 attitude for me, the finesse of the game is lost.
 
It all came down to that loss in Perth. That game was winnable but they threw it away. Before the series started there was a lot of doubt in this Aussie team and a win in the first test would have put a foot on their throats. This win in Melbourne may do more harm than good for the future of this team. I hope they don’t go home thinking ah well, we got a test match win.
 
Citizen of Legoland said:
They’re ruining Test cricket now. I used to look forward to following England on radio/TV on these winter tours but now I rarely bother. I can see from England’s second innings that the openers went hard at it batting at 70+ strike rate (unless it was particularly wayward bowling), and that’s fine, if you don’t lose too many early wickets. It’s a 50/50 attitude for me, the finesse of the game is lost.
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England were always going to play ultra aggressive cricket no matter what. Its how Stokes, McCullum and Key have had them playing for the last 4 years and it's certainly up for debate if that's a good thing or not. When it comes off(see New Zealand 2022 series) it looks fantastic. When it doesn't it looks awful.

What it has done though is make the test cricket format more aggressive with more teams adopting a more attacking approach, although not as aggressive as England, South Africa and India spring to mind.

In turn though that means shorter matches. Test cricket which is still absolutely the best format was dying on its arse due to the shorter formats being more customer friendly and only the really big test series were getting decent crowds so something had to change.

Is Bazball the answer? No one knows but it has made test cricket more exciting
 
kippaxwarrior said:
England were always going to play ultra aggressive cricket no matter what. Its how Stokes, McCullum and Key have had them playing for the last 4 years and it's certainly up for debate if that's a good thing or not. When it comes off(see New Zealand 2022 series) it looks fantastic. When it doesn't it looks awful.

What it has done though is make the test cricket format more aggressive with more teams adopting a more attacking approach, although not as aggressive as England, South Africa and India spring to mind.

In turn though that means shorter matches. Test cricket which is still absolutely the best format was dying on its arse due to the shorter formats being more customer friendly and only the really big test series were getting decent crowds so something had to change.

Is Bazball the answer? No one knows but it has made test cricket more exciting
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Maybe. I’ve just lost interest in it which I never thought would happen. I miss those days of getting annoyed by a defeat against the old enemy and victories seem hollow now.

Ah well.
 
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Citizen of Legoland said:
Maybe. I’ve just lost interest in it which I never thought would happen. I miss those days of getting annoyed by a defeat against the old enemy.

Ah well.
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I’m not saying Bazball is the answer but our win percentage in tests prior to that was utterly shite. I didn’t see too many people wanking off over the England cricket team back then, and playing that way wasn’t exactly effective in Ashes series down under because since the 2010/11 series there - which we won by playing a lot of positive cricket - we didn’t have a single test win to our name until today. As such, there’s a serious amount of revisionism going on here. While questions need to be asked about how we approached this series and how we applied ourselves during the matches - and in between them - it wasn’t all down to Bazball. In fact, looking at some of the run rates I’d argue that Bazball cleared off from the England team after the first test and didn’t make a reappearance until today’s successful run chase.
 
Citizen of Legoland said:
They’re ruining Test cricket now. I used to look forward to following England on radio/TV on these winter tours but now I rarely bother. I can see from England’s second innings that the openers went hard at it batting at 70+ strike rate (unless it was particularly wayward bowling), and that’s fine, if you don’t lose too many early wickets. It’s a 50/50 attitude for me, the finesse of the game is lost.
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I think the theory was on that wicket you’re better off going hard at the ball rather than waiting for the swing to get you playing defensively, and tbf it worked
 
M18CTID said:
I’m not saying Bazball is the answer but our win percentage in tests prior to that was utterly shite. I didn’t see too many people wanking off over the England cricket team back then, and playing that way wasn’t exactly effective in Ashes series down under because since the 2010/11 series there - which we won by playing a lot of positive cricket - we didn’t have a single test win to our name until today. As such, there’s a serious amount of revisionism going on here. While questions need to be asked about how we approached this series and how we applied ourselves during the matches - and in between them - it wasn’t all down to Bazball. In fact, looking at some of the run rates I’d argue that Bazball cleared off from the England team after the first test and didn’t make a reappearance until today’s successful run chase.
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BringBackSwales said:
I think the theory was on that wicket you’re better off going hard at the ball rather than waiting for the swing to get you playing defensively, and tbf it worked
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Just ignore me. I’m just feeling a bit depressed this morning. Cricket used to be a big help when I was younger and I had these dark moods at Christmas but I need 5 day games ;)
 
jimharri said:
I would say that it's a consolation. But let's be honest; it isn't really, is it?
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It should be.

The problem with a lot of England fans is they set the minimum level of expectations so high.

We’ve won our first test in 15 years in Australia and some people are falling over themselves trying to tell us it means nothing and we shouldn’t enjoy it.

The tour is still a disappointment because 1 smart day batting in Perth and we’d be 2-2 or 3-1 going into Sydney but Stokes and McCullum have done what the last 3 coaches/captains couldn’t in Australia.

It’s just frustrating that if they’d done a few really basic things they could be celebrating a series win now. Have a fielding coach, better bowling tactics, play a pink ball game at some point in the last 3 years etc.
 
domalino said:
It should be.

The problem with a lot of England fans is they set the minimum level of expectations so high.

We’ve won our first test in 15 years in Australia and some people are falling over themselves trying to tell us it means nothing and we shouldn’t enjoy it.

The tour is still a disappointment because 1 smart day batting in Perth and we’d be 2-2 or 3-1 going into Sydney but Stokes and McCullum have done what the last 3 coaches/captains couldn’t in Australia.

It’s just frustrating that if they’d done a few really basic things they could be celebrating a series win now. Have a fielding coach, better bowling tactics, play a pink ball game at some point in the last 3 years etc.
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so are you telling me the convicts played flat out in this test like the series mattered
perth was the failure then yes this wouldve been great victory as it is it's a win and stops the 5-0 easy talk
 
That's pathetic it being over in 2 days, and people still claim that test cricket is alive and well, it isn't, you need to realise this just with this series alone, it's baseball, not bazball, fucking baseball.

We might get the odd match, mainly over here, where a game could last 4 days, or 4 and half days, but that is rare, but leads people to saying test cricket is great,

It fucking isn't!
 
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