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I do like to give it a day or two before coming on after a frustrating result, and while i agree with the we played crap rhetoric, as we know we can play better, i do not believe we deserved to drop points, this result like many other came on the back of shockingly bad refereeing/VAR/ linesmen, we are getting targeted by these organisations, and in years gone we could rise above the corruption, this season that rallying is beyond us, so we are left with the joy of football, lets enjoy that knowing results and trophies will return.
After all we could gleam good football Niall Quinn.
 
Ok, finally got round to watching the match fully and calmly, and I now better understand why there was so much negativity in this thread in the immediate aftermath. On the face of it, a draw at Palace looks like an acceptable result, given that they've given us problems in the past.
So many misplaced passes! So many balls not properly controlled!! Far more than I'm used to seeing from this team. First goal — who on earth does Rico think he's marking? And if he's not supposed to be aware of Munõz, who is moving into what seems to be an entire meadow of space, then who the hell is supposed to be aware? Second goal — really poor from Walker. A free header. In both cases, neither player seemed to be aware of where their man really was. Michael Brown on the OS commentary says “City are controlling the game”. Well, control without threatening? Because that's what it was, especially in the second half.
Nunes had an ineffective game, there's no two ways about it. Yes, there was the cross, and it was a good one. That's it. I've defended him, or rather I've asked for more time on him. Well, not an impressive match. Rico, who I've also defended — he got simply dispossessed at least two times, and it might have been three. And it led to dangerous counters by Palace. The lad just gets bullied physically. I admit it — in a 50-50, he's simply not going to come out on top. Anyway, it's invidious to single out individuals.
Man of the match by a country mile — Días. Thank God for him, at least. Where would we be without him at present? Fifth? Sixth?
We're far from being credible title contenders. That's gone. We may get top four, I think we will, because everyone behind us is pretty iffy, too.
But there is some major renovation to be done, now.
 
Ok, finally got round to watching the match fully and calmly, and I now better understand why there was so much negativity in this thread in the immediate aftermath. On the face of it, a draw at Palace looks like an acceptable result, given that they've given us problems in the past.
So many misplaced passes! So many balls not properly controlled!! Far more than I'm used to seeing from this team. First goal — who on earth does Rico think he's marking? And if he's not supposed to be aware of Munõz, who is moving into what seems to be an entire meadow of space, then who the hell is supposed to be aware? Second goal — really poor from Walker. A free header. In both cases, neither player seemed to be aware of where their man really was. Michael Brown on the OS commentary says “City are controlling the game”. Well, control without threatening? Because that's what it was, especially in the second half.
Nunes had an ineffective game, there's no two ways about it. Yes, there was the cross, and it was a good one. That's it. I've defended him, or rather I've asked for more time on him. Well, not an impressive match. Rico, who I've also defended — he got simply dispossessed at least two times, and it might have been three. And it led to dangerous counters by Palace. The lad just gets bullied physically. I admit it — in a 50-50, he's simply not going to come out on top. Anyway, it's invidious to single out individuals.
Man of the match by a country mile — Días. Thank God for him, at least. Where would we be without him at present? Fifth? Sixth?
We're far from being credible title contenders. That's gone. We may get top four, I think we will, because everyone behind us is pretty iffy, too.
But there is some major renovation to be done, now.

It's a real myth about our struggles at Palace. It's always felt like a tricky place to go and a difficult game, but actually they've tended to get results at the Etihad and not at home. We last lost at Selhurst Park in 2015. Before Saturday we'd won 8 and drawn 2 of the 10 games we'd played there.

Palace were absolutely shite against Ipswich. And they weren't much better on Saturday. Tough conditions but as has been the case recently, absolutely criminal defending and silly mistakes in possession cost us.

Until we can keep Walker and Rico out of the team and use them more sparingly we're going to struggle and if they do play then they have to defend better and the attacking players have to help them out a lot more. It's a real shame we couldn't have played Akanji and Ake due to injuries as we'd have won with them on the pitch. I don't mean to be harsh on Rico, he scored a brilliant goal and he's a kid with a brilliant career ahead of him. But Walker's time is done.
 
I watched the full game on City+, I thought Walker was ok. I don’t blame Walker for the second goal. It was a well weighted corner and Walker could not get the ball even he had jumped. I think Walker did what he could do to hassle. On the other hand, I thought Walker ran strongly and proactively in the match.

On the other hand I thought Silva played quite badly in this game. Too many errors and made quite erratic decisions almost every time. although got an assist.

Gundo was ok to me. He certainly could not control the tempo at back but still way more experienced in DM than any other ones available at the moment.
 
No at the Forest game we had Ake fit which helped our defence big time, Grealish in midfield also helped, then all of a sudden Ake is out again and Grealish "feels unwell" whatever the fuck that means, and Akanji out too means we have to play both Walker and Lewis, you can't have any consistency when you constantly have to change your defence which gets zero protection from the non existent midfield anyway.
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I do like to give it a day or two before coming on after a frustrating result, and while i agree with the we played crap rhetoric, as we know we can play better, i do not believe we deserved to drop points, this result like many other came on the back of shockingly bad refereeing/VAR/ linesmen, we are getting targeted by these organisations, and in years gone we could rise above the corruption, this season that rallying is beyond us, so we are left with the joy of football, lets enjoy that knowing results and trophies will return.
After all we could gleam good football Niall Quinn.
Couldn't disagree more. Lewis wrongly getting sent off with 6 minutes to go hasn't cost us the game. Blowing up when he did is a conversation but we had over 90 minutes to turn that draw into a win. I don't recall too much going against us this season? Lets not turn into the scousers. We didn't win because we wasn't good enough, like a lot of games this season. Acceptance is the first part of dealing with it.
 
The best thing about Saturday was that new tactic we tried; the winger makes a bit of space, then sends in a looping, high ball into the penalty area, right onto the head of our 6'5'' centre forward, who then does a lovely header into the net.

I really enjoyed that. Hope we see it again one day.
 
Couldn't disagree more. Lewis wrongly getting sent off with 6 minutes to go hasn't cost us the game. Blowing up when he did is a conversation but we had over 90 minutes to turn that draw into a win. I don't recall too much going against us this season? Lets not turn into the scousers. We didn't win because we wasn't good enough, like a lot of games this season. Acceptance is the first part of dealing with it.
It is good to disagree, life would be boring if we did not. Lewis getting sent off for example, it was in the penalty area and he was fouled, a foul that normally comes with a yellow, which is why the ref got it wrong and gave it the wrong player, good job VAR was there eh, did you see the build up to their second goal? the linesman refused to raise the flag for off side, a few seconds later palace win a corner and score. How many times have you seen Haaland wrestled to the floor this season? what do you think our penalty count for/against this season is compared to our competitors, what is our bookings per foul this season compared to our competitors. now i will say that this season we can not compete with ourselves from previous seasons, but we have outplayed nearly everyone we have played this season.
 
It is good to disagree, life would be boring if we did not. Lewis getting sent off for example, it was in the penalty area and he was fouled, a foul that normally comes with a yellow, which is why the ref got it wrong and gave it the wrong player, good job VAR was there eh, did you see the build up to their second goal? the linesman refused to raise the flag for off side, a few seconds later palace win a corner and score. How many times have you seen Haaland wrestled to the floor this season? what do you think our penalty count for/against this season is compared to our competitors, what is our bookings per foul this season compared to our competitors. now i will say that this season we can not compete with ourselves from previous seasons, but we have outplayed nearly everyone we have played this season.
No we haven't. Outplaying isnt keeping more possesion or getting 2 more shots on the target...we used to keep teams under 5-6 shots against us , now almost every team is getting 10+ shots against us, just cutting through our team like its nothing.We don't create more chances than our opponents atm.
 
No we haven't. Outplaying isnt keeping more possesion or getting 2 more shots on the target...we used to keep teams under 5-6 shots against us , now almost every team is getting 10+ shots against us, just cutting through our team like its nothing.We don't create more chances than our opponents atm.
Tell that to Pep, everybody knows we have lost Rodri which has weakened the defense, so the hoof ball is successful, that we have to live with, but results are not outplaying.
 
It is good to disagree, life would be boring if we did not. Lewis getting sent off for example, it was in the penalty area and he was fouled, a foul that normally comes with a yellow, which is why the ref got it wrong and gave it the wrong player, good job VAR was there eh, did you see the build up to their second goal? the linesman refused to raise the flag for off side, a few seconds later palace win a corner and score. How many times have you seen Haaland wrestled to the floor this season? what do you think our penalty count for/against this season is compared to our competitors, what is our bookings per foul this season compared to our competitors. now i will say that this season we can not compete with ourselves from previous seasons, but we have outplayed nearly everyone we have played this season.
Wow, outplayed nearly everyone. I don't have time to pick the holes throughout that mess of a post
 
Well at least you noticed the foul on Lewis was in the penalty area.
You notice a lot but clearly only things that go against City. We aren't hard done to, it is normal bias towards your own club. Funny how fans of every other team think refs are on City's side. It's the logic of football fans. We didn't drop points against Palace because of the ref, it was because we was shite, like against Spurs, Brighton, Bournemouth. Newcastle, Liverpool, Juventus, Feyernoord, Sporting.........
 
You notice a lot but clearly only things that go against City. We aren't hard done to, it is normal bias towards your own club. Funny how fans of every other team think refs are on City's side. It's the logic of football fans. We didn't drop points against Palace because of the ref, it was because we was shite, like against Spurs, Brighton, Bournemouth. Newcastle, Liverpool, Juventus, Feyernoord, Sporting.........
Without a doubt i am biased, probably more than most, and we are shite, but shite to our own standards. This is the new standard we have to live with it, and hope it is not permanent, but if Pep values passing and possession, there is not much point in me or you moaning about it, after all when was the last time you saw Ederson kick long from a goal kick, for me it was to Aguero. But i still do not agree with your list, i am not a happy clapper, i enjoy football, and god knows if we can keep our spirits up over a strikers pants, i can believe Pep is still outplaying most opposition.
 
Without a doubt i am biased, probably more than most, and we are shite, but shite to our own standards. This is the new standard we have to live with it, and hope it is not permanent, but if Pep values passing and possession, there is not much point in me or you moaning about it, after all when was the last time you saw Ederson kick long from a goal kick, for me it was to Aguero. But i still do not agree with your list, i am not a happy clapper, i enjoy football, and god knows if we can keep our spirits up over a strikers pants, i can believe Pep is still outplaying most opposition.
Ederson kicked it long to Haaland just this season for a goal, what point that makes I am not sure. We have been outplayed a lot this season, even in games we have won. We can moan about it and we can discuss it as match going fans of the club who part with our cash.
 
Ederson kicked it long to Haaland just this season for a goal, what point that makes I am not sure. We have been outplayed a lot this season, even in games we have won. We can moan about it and we can discuss it as match going fans of the club who part with our cash.
Well obviously your view and mine differ on out played, just guessing that Pep`s does as well, the long ball was an indication to what Pep values, even if that is the way we have conceded the most.
They say a good moan gets it off your chest, the problem with that is there is a lot more to come.
 

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