Crystal Palace (N) | FA Cup Final | Post Match Thread

Frankie lad said:
Rewatching game.
It seems no city player saw the handball Haaland didn’t seem to see and not being at our end the fans made no noise when it happened.
Definite pen for us but why did H not take it and why was pen not retaken as goalie was 5 feet off his line or is that not still the rule?
Can’t understand why Haaland didn’t bang in the rebound instead of squaring it.
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The same reason he didn't take the pen. Had the jitters.
 
youngbob said:
The thing is with the shit handball/red card decision, every team gets shit decisions against them. Palace had a pretty naff decision go against them for our penalty imo - Bernardo start going down before Mitchell's tackle came in, we just didn't make it count so it's not a talking point. If Marmoush buries the penalty and Palace collapse then it would be all about "Cheating oil City buying the refs again".

Point is, we've had tonnes of shit decisions against us under Pep, we've just usually been so good that they didn't matter. We had another hour to score a goal and didn't - that's on us. If Palace had gone down to 10 men they'd have just sat in deeper anyway and we'd have watched as more and more chances went begging.

I mean, who remembers Gabriel Jesus getting hacked down in the West Ham game in 2022 but not getting anything for it? Basically nobody because we drew that game and beat Villa the week after to win the title. If we'd lost against West Ham or Villa during that week we'd have been coming back to the Jesus non-penalty for years and Liverpool fans would barely mention the Rodri handball against Everton.

The biggest let-off we've had down the years imo was Grealish's handball against Chelsea in the FA Cup semi-final. He had ages to get out of the way and he stopped a shot that was on target - nothing given. If we'd won the final against United we'd be seeing screengrabs of it for years, but because we lost to United it gets forgotten about and instead we focus on the offside given against Coventry in United's game.

It's happened this week for Stockport County. Everyone will focus on the shit offside decision Leyton Orient got in the first game because County lost, but County had two massive chances to win it in the 91st and 120th minutes of the second game and they fluffed their lines. Just the way it goes - you've got to accept that shit decisions are always likely and make it count elsewhere.
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The big issue is one of the VAR officials used to play for Crystal Palace when Steve Coppell was there and the main VAR official is a self confessed Liverpool fan called Jared Gillett.
youngbob said:
If one of the VAR officials used to play for Palace - I know which one you mean, Darren Cann - and it influenced their decisions then why didn't they overturn the penalty? There were grounds to overturn it, picked up on by quite a few City fans watching live (including myself), but it wasn't. If that much bias was at play in Darren Cann's head then why did they give us a pretty debatable penalty?
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Fair point. The penalty was possibly more debateable, but there is one camera angle from the side rather than behind the players that is pretty definitive. However, awarding a penalty does not change the game to the extent that sending off the goalkeeper would have done. I think they either ducked the big decision and didn't send the keeper off for fear of ruining the final or there was evidence of bias. The feedback from experts is more or less unanimous on the handball outside the box. He should have been sent off. If they didn't duck the decision and there was no bias the VAR officials are simply incompetent and should not be allowed to officiate any games of this magnitude again. Everyone's patting CP on the back right now, but the handball decision was really bad whatever the reasons behind it.
 
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youngbob said:
The thing is with the shit handball/red card decision, every team gets shit decisions against them. Palace had a pretty naff decision go against them for our penalty imo - Bernardo start going down before Mitchell's tackle came in, we just didn't make it count so it's not a talking point. If Marmoush buries the penalty and Palace collapse then it would be all about "Cheating oil City buying the refs again".

Point is, we've had tonnes of shit decisions against us under Pep, we've just usually been so good that they didn't matter. We had another hour to score a goal and didn't - that's on us. If Palace had gone down to 10 men they'd have just sat in deeper anyway and we'd have watched as more and more chances went begging.

I mean, who remembers Gabriel Jesus getting hacked down in the West Ham game in 2022 but not getting anything for it? Basically nobody because we drew that game and beat Villa the week after to win the title. If we'd lost against West Ham or Villa during that week we'd have been coming back to the Jesus non-penalty for years and Liverpool fans would barely mention the Rodri handball against Everton.

The biggest let-off we've had down the years imo was Grealish's handball against Chelsea in the FA Cup semi-final. He had ages to get out of the way and he stopped a shot that was on target - nothing given. If we'd won the final against United we'd be seeing screengrabs of it for years, but because we lost to United it gets forgotten about and instead we focus on the offside given against Coventry in United's game.

It's happened this week for Stockport County. Everyone will focus on the shit offside decision Leyton Orient got in the first game because County lost, but County had two massive chances to win it in the 91st and 120th minutes of the second game and they fluffed their lines. Just the way it goes - you've got to accept that shit decisions are always likely and make it count elsewhere.
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Mo Salah has made a career out of doing what Bernardo did, it is the modern way, not correct but it is what it is. What is wrong is the media bitching about it when it’s us but not when other teams repeatedly do it
 
Moggzy said:
Darren Cann: His past with Crystal Palace led to some controversy, notably when he was removed from officiating a 2017 FA Cup tie between Crystal Palace and Manchester City due to potential bias concerns.

But VAR is fine !?


Addditionally… he’s been previously stepped down from a game between city and palace so why didn’t he recuse himself of his duties?

Same as the game against them a home - his last ever game as an assistant- he didn’t flag their 3rd goal that VAR overturned.

Bent ****
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He ran the line in April 5-2 City
 
meltonblue said:
Congrats on the win, very happy for you and your fanbase.

On the medics, are you saying Guehi was brought back on even though he had a fractured eye socket?
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Suspected fracture, by the time of presentation his left eye was completely closed. Out for rest of season
 
Ray bloody Purchase said:
Sorry if someone else has posted this, it’s hard reading this thread after what happened, but I was convinced at the time, Haaland giving Marmoush the penalty was planned, as the goalie would have been expecting Erling to take it and studied his style more,
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After the game Henderson said he knew where Mamoush was going to put it but would have had no idea if Haaland had taken it
 
More in Hooe said:
Perhaps you should have complained before he ran the line when you beat us 5-2 in April
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Perhaps you should remember who's club's forum you're on. If you want to have a dig, go to a Palace forum and do it. I wouldn't dream of going on a Palace forum and having a go.

Felt like it on saturday evening, mind.
 
jimharri said:
Perhaps you should remember who's club's forum you're on. If you want to have a dig, go to a Palace forum and do it. I wouldn't dream of going on a Palace forum and having a go.

Felt like it on saturday evening, mind.
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Wasn’t meant as a dig but reading it back could be construed as such. Just making the point that he has officiated between the 2 teams previously
 
Marvin. said:
Going 0-1 down and then missing a pen. was an absolutely massive moment in the game. CPFC went into half time knowing that all they had to do was defended the penalty area like mad and break up the game. And they did it.

City didn't deal with the situation well, and previous City sides would likely have overcome the difficulty but refereeing decisions and the pen. itself were massive moments in the final. I've heard the City were sh't argument constantly and I don't agree with it. We were playing as we have done for much of this season. At a top 5 standard, that can dominate possession but not at an elite standard. And it had nothing to do with tactics. We just don't have enough elite players available any more.
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100% agree. We have nothing on the wings
 
More in Hooe said:
Wasn’t meant as a dig but reading it back could be construed as such. Just making the point that he has officiated between the 2 teams previously
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It was a dig. We don't mind fans from rival clubs being on here (we're not RAWK). And we're not looking for said rival fans to blow smoke up our arses. Just be conscious of where you are.
 
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