Crystal Palace PL (H) Post match thread

[Beanhead]

Just rewatched the build up to the pen on MOTD I take it back. Tierney got it right.. no foul on Silva.. we were just shit!

 

[Xhavenjoe]

We won a treble last year playing that way ffs what more do you want

A quadruple

 

[Petetheblu]

Said it before and I'll say it again, if you take KDB, Gunny and Mahrez out of any team, then they'll be a drop.

Hopefully we have learnt a lesson and won't let player dictate whether they stay or go at the end of the season. Lets get a replacement player in the season before, so they can adopt to what we need.

God knows how many million we earned last season, seems weve fallen into this the "lets spend less" scenario.

 

[Xhavenjoe]

Not over, everyone going to drop points but if we do lose then we lost it in the summer window.

I’d have been happy to sub Ederson off for the pen, has he ever stopped one?

He probably has but I definitely have regular Bravo, Caballero, Hart, Weaver saves in my memory.
I can even remember Scott Carson and Niall Quinn saving a penalty.
Can't recall Ederson saving one.

 

[jim tolmies perm]

Basic fact is 2-0 up last 15 at home to a bunch of big fast athletes and nothing more should be a routine win

 

[blueju]

T

Here's a thought.
At two up with say twenty mins left or at latest at 2-1, sub off Rico and Alvarez for Nunes and Kovacic.
Then go to a conventional back four.
Eddy
Walker Ruby Gvardiol Ake
Rodders Nunes Kovacic
Foden Grealish Bernie
And there other combinations you could come up with utilising Stones and/or Akanji.
It keeps us solid at the back and shores up the midfield whilst keeping our attacking options open.

The conventional back 4 sat deeper is where our foundation should begin whilst we find a midfield that can control games and our new players find their feet. Us being caught out with the opposition’s 1 or two chances due to the high line has gone on way too long I find it inconceivable that all the expert at our club agree on playing so high.

 

[hilts]

I completely agree. I don't think any number of years was keeping him here.

The real answer is that nobody knows and won't until/if gundog writes an autobiography. People are guessing so what's the point?

 

[Corky]

Said it before and I'll say it again, if you take KDB, Gunny and Mahrez out of any team, then they'll be a drop.

Hopefully we have learnt a lesson and won't let player dictate whether they stay or go at the end of the season. Lets get a replacement player in the season before, so they can adopt to what we need.

God knows how many million we earned last season, seems weve fallen into this the "lets spend less" scenario.

Sorry, I'm not being offensive as I realise you speak in broken English, but we can't force players to stay.

We have been here many times before, and Khaldoon has said stars can stay as long as they want, but it is all for show. City want rid.

 

[Norman kneejerk]

About time we converted a lot more of our chances.

Agree with this , we have very few natural goalscorers in the team to kill the gane off, so the opposition tend to stay in the game.
Quality has dropped too but if we could stick our chances away it's a different game literally.

 

[hilts]

We are still in all the big 3 tournaments and the Fifa World Club trophy, So it's not that bad is it.
Pep knows his onions and nobody can doubt him at this stage of the season because we have many games to play.

The winter transfer window will be key for me and selling Phillips, if we can get good money for Phillips and invest in a couple of good signings then get players back like KDB and Haaland then who knows, City can and have put amazing runs together and smashed it from worst places than were we are today.

Yes we are still in 2 tournaments that we haven't played in yet and a league that hasn't reached half way.

This place:-)

 

[levets]

He was the only one who showed aggression ans ambition He could have been like Dias Ake and Walker got great passing stats along the line 30 yards from goal to you no to you well to you then at infinity

I said that after the game… “A big problem is our central defenders probably have more touches than our forwards”. This causes us to lose impetus and gives the opposing players a breather and chance to reset. So frustrating lately. Dias is a defender, he is not a playmaker.

 

[TrentGrisham]

I said that after the game… “A big problem is our central defenders probably have more touches than our forwards”. This causes us to lose impetus and gives the opposing players a breather and chance to reset. So frustrating lately. Dias is a defender, he is not a playmaker.

He played a great ball to Gvaridol tbf... and the pass to Phil which led to Jack's goal.

 

[Gordyola]

I said that after the game… “A big problem is our central defenders probably have more touches than our forwards”. This causes us to lose impetus and gives the opposing players a breather and chance to reset. So frustrating lately. Dias is a defender, he is not a playmaker.

I covered in match day thread couldn’t believe that Pep didn’t see it, the reason they got these stats is because they passed it between each other Poor Bernie isolated out on the wing and Phil kept asking for the ball but they were scared to lay it forward so they passed it sideways it meant the game palyer 30 yards from their goal line and left all the space behind Pep want a football genius today

 

[eyalluvitt]

It’s so bad we need a Liverpool win tomorrow to damage our rivals for a Europa place

 

[Quilted]

“A big problem is our central defenders probably have more touches than our forwards”

But isn't that the very foundation of pepball, controlling the game and playing out from the back. All roads lead from the main CB. It only becomes a problem when it gets sloppy at the back, thats when questions start being asked.

 

[levets]

He played a great ball to Gvaridol tbf... and the pass to Phil which led to Jack's goal.

He did, but I lost count the number of times he ‘failed’ to make a pass forward and stopped in his tracks and passed it square to Ake and vice versa in a foolish attempt to run the clock down in the last 15 mins plus added time.

 

[HarrytheBlue]

Agree with this , we have very few natural goalscorers in the team to kill the gane off, so the opposition tend to stay in the game.
Quality has dropped too but if we could stick our chances away it's a different game literally.

Gundo and Mahrez tended to score from the limited number of chances that came their way.

 

[levets]

But isn't that the very foundation of pepball, controlling the game and playing out from the back. All roads lead from the main CB. It only becomes a problem when it gets sloppy at the back, thats when questions start being asked.

As it did today. I said earlier, “sometimes the easiest option is the best”. We didn’t really control the game in the closing stages did we? Ruben has been below par for weeks. Hopefully they have a clear the air and all get back to what they do best, starting Tuesday.

 

[pauls]

As it did today. I said earlier, “sometimes the easiest option is the best”. We didn’t really control the game in the closing stages did we? Ruben has been below par for weeks. Hopefully they have a clear the air and all get back to what they do best, starting Tuesday.

We could over analyse, simple fact,Ruben takes care of Schlupp like he should have done we see the game out and I'm a big Dias fan,he's in poor form at the moment.

 

[HarrytheBlue]

In the build up to the pen, Bernardo's arm was clearly pulled, but because he doesn't fall over squealing we get nothing and the pen's given. As for the pen, Phil didn't see Mateta, and the ball was going out for a goal kick. MOTD referred to it in the briefest possible way and didn't say out loud 'Bernardo fouled'. Wonder why.