Cuba Libre

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

You’ve taken clothing to people who have free health care and free education. Their cup truly runneth over. Communism working a treat

My wife and I did the same when visiting Egypt and various African countries. I think you'll find that many of Cubas issues are caused by the sanctions imposed by the Americans not by their political ideology.

 

[Rascal]

You’ve taken clothing to people who have free health care and free education. Their cup truly runneth over. Communism working a treat

You need to learn about Communism.

You also need to learn about why Cuba struggles economically

You also need to learn why the USA was trying to provide internet access, clue- it wasnt so the people could watch X Hamster

You also need to learn abut the latest raft of US sanctions

You also need to learn about US imperialism in Venezuela, why Mexico support Cuba, why Cuba support Venezuela, the role of the CIA in causing South American instability including installing fascist Pinochet to power in Chile.

Learn why Biden imposed sanctions

On July 11, Cubans took to the streets to express their dismay. It seemed like a spontaneous action, but on closer inspection there’s a bigger picture here. For 60 years the US has been trying to bring about regime change. In recent years, they have been using social media and mainstream media in a sophisticated way to do so. Recent events in Cuba are a textbook example of this.
The protests last Sunday July 11 were preceded by a fierce digital campaign. Renowned Spanish IT analyst Julian Macias Tovar has meticulously researched and mapped it out. His findings are shocking.

In the days before the protests, the hashtag #SOSCuba began to circulate strongly in Florida. The SOS Cuba campaign had already been launched on June 15 in New York, with the aim of influencing the vote in the United Nations General Assembly against the US blockade against Cuba. Without success. 184 countries condemned the blockade, which has been strangling Cuba for more than six decades. Only Israel and the US voted against.

The worsening Covid situation in Cuba in recent weeks provided an excellent opportunity to revive the campaign. On July 5th, Florida-based media platform SOS Cuba launched a Twitterstorm for humanitarian intervention in Cuba.

That happened under the guidance of Agustin Antonelli. This Argentinian is a member of the right-wing foundation Fundacion Libertad. This was not his first campaign. He had previously launched social media campaigns against Evo Morales in Bolivia and Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador in Mexico.

The first account that used #SOSCuba in relation to the Covid situation in Cuba was based in Spain. On both July 10 and 11, it sent more than a thousand tweets, with an automatic rate of 5 retweets per second. This is done by so-called bots.

Some of the robots used in this campaign are state of the art, expensive and very difficult to detect. We should not forget that the US has recently created a special command for war in cyberspace.

In his research Tovar points out that tweets were sent to artists in Cuba and in Miami to participate with #SOSCuba: protest for the deaths caused by Covid and the lack of medical resources. More than 1,100 responses were received to this tweet.

Remarkably, almost all of those are from accounts that were created recently or no longer ago than one year. More than 1,500 accounts were created between July 10 and 11. The operation made intensive use of robots, algorithms and accounts newly created for the occasion.

With hundreds of thousands of tweets and the participation of many artist accounts, the hashtag became trending in several countries on Sunday July 11. All that was needed were a few hundred Cubans to take to the streets.

The first demonstration in the town of San Antonio de Los Banos, 16 miles from Havana, was immediately publicised in the US by Yusnaby’s account with thousands of retweets. Yusnaby (US Navy) is a typical example of an automated fake account.

All this suggests that there has been a campaign to attack the Cuban government and blame it for the hardships facing the Cuban people.

The messages sent out into the world are full of fake news. One post, retweeted hundreds of times, shows a ten-thousand-strong crowd allegedly marching along the Malecon, Havana’s grand seaside boulevard. Reuters photo checkers found that it is actually a photo — in weak resolution — of a mass demonstration in Alexandria, Egypt, from February 2011. Zoomed in fragments show Egyptian flags.

Another piece of false information sent out into the world is the photo of protesters at the statue of Maximo Gomez in Havana. These were not counter-protesters but supporters of the Cuban revolution. Loads of media outlets and major newspapers like the New York Times and The Grauniad spread this piece of fake news. Reversing reality is a trick that has been used several times in the past on other occasions, including in Venezuela.


You are atypical of a person who swallows right wing propaganda for breakfast dinner and tea. Cuba is an example that American capitalists would rather not have on their doorstep so everything is done to discredit them, to harm them and to stop them having a place in the world.

 

[stonerblue]

Poor old johnny has set himself on fire again..

 

[inbetween]

I've been to Cuba and it's a wonderful country with a lot of culture. I suppose we didn't really go anywhere near Havana to see it properly but it was a nice place. As most have said, they have excellent free healthcare and education but their only problem is they are very poor which is no doubt down to US sanctions.

Aside from politics, one thing I will say about these communist/socialist countries is they know how to make cracking rum. Give me a Havana Club 7 or Diplomatico anyday.

 

[Bluemanc100]

How does Cuba compare to other Carribbean countries?

I went there a few years ago and enjoyed the place. We went to Havana for a day trip which I loved for it's decaying majesty ( I love to take photos of places like that).. SWMBO hated Havana... We went to the bar that Hemingway used to frequent, El Floridita and we both loved that... We had a lovely meal and Daiquiris (Gorgeous) as it was included in the tour price... The tour guide on the bus was super critical of the Yanks (which got on my tits after an hour or so) because she blamed them for the country's poverty but I'm sure she earned a bloody good living based on the tips she got on our trip.

We found Havana on the whole to be a great place to visit but you have to accept what they have in stock e.g. our hotel (all inclusive) ran out of tomatoes half way through our stay but the catering was pretty good overall. Our hotel had all the named brands you can think of in the bar but whether the contents were home made I have no idea... The Cuban rum is lovely and I stuck to that most of the week

Here's one of my favourite pictures from Havana...

 

[oakiecokie]

Poor old johnny has set himself on fire again..

A "know all" who constantly "knows fuck all" stoner.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Communist countries inherently produce smaller quantities consumer goods (for their internal market).

There isn't much point arguing otherwise.But the ideal situation isn't what we have in late capitalist economies where we consume too much shit and throw it away within a short period of time.

Shortage economy - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[johnnytapia]

You need to learn about Communism.

You also need to learn about why Cuba struggles economically

You also need to learn why the USA was trying to provide internet access, clue- it wasnt so the people could watch X Hamster

You also need to learn abut the latest raft of US sanctions

You also need to learn about US imperialism in Venezuela, why Mexico support Cuba, why Cuba support Venezuela, the role of the CIA in causing South American instability including installing fascist Pinochet to power in Chile.

Learn why Biden imposed sanctions

On July 11, Cubans took to the streets to express their dismay. It seemed like a spontaneous action, but on closer inspection there’s a bigger picture here. For 60 years the US has been trying to bring about regime change. In recent years, they have been using social media and mainstream media in a sophisticated way to do so. Recent events in Cuba are a textbook example of this.
The protests last Sunday July 11 were preceded by a fierce digital campaign. Renowned Spanish IT analyst Julian Macias Tovar has meticulously researched and mapped it out. His findings are shocking.

In the days before the protests, the hashtag #SOSCuba began to circulate strongly in Florida. The SOS Cuba campaign had already been launched on June 15 in New York, with the aim of influencing the vote in the United Nations General Assembly against the US blockade against Cuba. Without success. 184 countries condemned the blockade, which has been strangling Cuba for more than six decades. Only Israel and the US voted against.

The worsening Covid situation in Cuba in recent weeks provided an excellent opportunity to revive the campaign. On July 5th, Florida-based media platform SOS Cuba launched a Twitterstorm for humanitarian intervention in Cuba.

That happened under the guidance of Agustin Antonelli. This Argentinian is a member of the right-wing foundation Fundacion Libertad. This was not his first campaign. He had previously launched social media campaigns against Evo Morales in Bolivia and Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador in Mexico.

The first account that used #SOSCuba in relation to the Covid situation in Cuba was based in Spain. On both July 10 and 11, it sent more than a thousand tweets, with an automatic rate of 5 retweets per second. This is done by so-called bots.

Some of the robots used in this campaign are state of the art, expensive and very difficult to detect. We should not forget that the US has recently created a special command for war in cyberspace.

In his research Tovar points out that tweets were sent to artists in Cuba and in Miami to participate with #SOSCuba: protest for the deaths caused by Covid and the lack of medical resources. More than 1,100 responses were received to this tweet.

Remarkably, almost all of those are from accounts that were created recently or no longer ago than one year. More than 1,500 accounts were created between July 10 and 11. The operation made intensive use of robots, algorithms and accounts newly created for the occasion.

With hundreds of thousands of tweets and the participation of many artist accounts, the hashtag became trending in several countries on Sunday July 11. All that was needed were a few hundred Cubans to take to the streets.

The first demonstration in the town of San Antonio de Los Banos, 16 miles from Havana, was immediately publicised in the US by Yusnaby’s account with thousands of retweets. Yusnaby (US Navy) is a typical example of an automated fake account.

All this suggests that there has been a campaign to attack the Cuban government and blame it for the hardships facing the Cuban people.

The messages sent out into the world are full of fake news. One post, retweeted hundreds of times, shows a ten-thousand-strong crowd allegedly marching along the Malecon, Havana’s grand seaside boulevard. Reuters photo checkers found that it is actually a photo — in weak resolution — of a mass demonstration in Alexandria, Egypt, from February 2011. Zoomed in fragments show Egyptian flags.

Another piece of false information sent out into the world is the photo of protesters at the statue of Maximo Gomez in Havana. These were not counter-protesters but supporters of the Cuban revolution. Loads of media outlets and major newspapers like the New York Times and The Grauniad spread this piece of fake news. Reversing reality is a trick that has been used several times in the past on other occasions, including in Venezuela.


You are atypical of a person who swallows right wing propaganda for breakfast dinner and tea. Cuba is an example that American capitalists would rather not have on their doorstep so everything is done to discredit them, to harm them and to stop them having a place in the world.

Typical or atypical?

 

[johnnytapia]

I went there a few years ago and enjoyed the place. We went to Havana for a day trip which I loved for it's decaying majesty ( I love to take photos of places like that).. SWMBO hated Havana... We went to the bar that Hemingway used to frequent, El Floridita and we both loved that... We had a lovely meal and Daiquiris (Gorgeous) as it was included in the tour price... The tour guide on the bus was super critical of the Yanks (which got on my tits after an hour or so) because she blamed them for the country's poverty but I'm sure she earned a bloody good living based on the tips she got on our trip.

We found Havana on the whole to be a great place to visit but you have to accept what they have in stock e.g. our hotel (all inclusive) ran out of tomatoes half way through our stay but the catering was pretty good overall. Our hotel had all the named brands you can think of in the bar but whether the contents were home made I have no idea... The Cuban rum is lovely and I stuck to that most of the week

Here's one of my favourite pictures from Havana...

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Ran out of tomatoes!!!! No dig at you Bluemanc but it sums up the whole Cuban shambles. Their government can claim to give out as many free dental bridges as they want, but the reality is thus: no tomatoes. Maybe it’s not sunny enough.

 

[johnnytapia]

You need to learn about Communism.

You also need to learn about why Cuba struggles economically

You also need to learn why the USA was trying to provide internet access, clue- it wasnt so the people could watch X Hamster

You also need to learn abut the latest raft of US sanctions

You also need to learn about US imperialism in Venezuela, why Mexico support Cuba, why Cuba support Venezuela, the role of the CIA in causing South American instability including installing fascist Pinochet to power in Chile.

Learn why Biden imposed sanctions

On July 11, Cubans took to the streets to express their dismay. It seemed like a spontaneous action, but on closer inspection there’s a bigger picture here. For 60 years the US has been trying to bring about regime change. In recent years, they have been using social media and mainstream media in a sophisticated way to do so. Recent events in Cuba are a textbook example of this.
The protests last Sunday July 11 were preceded by a fierce digital campaign. Renowned Spanish IT analyst Julian Macias Tovar has meticulously researched and mapped it out. His findings are shocking.

In the days before the protests, the hashtag #SOSCuba began to circulate strongly in Florida. The SOS Cuba campaign had already been launched on June 15 in New York, with the aim of influencing the vote in the United Nations General Assembly against the US blockade against Cuba. Without success. 184 countries condemned the blockade, which has been strangling Cuba for more than six decades. Only Israel and the US voted against.

The worsening Covid situation in Cuba in recent weeks provided an excellent opportunity to revive the campaign. On July 5th, Florida-based media platform SOS Cuba launched a Twitterstorm for humanitarian intervention in Cuba.

That happened under the guidance of Agustin Antonelli. This Argentinian is a member of the right-wing foundation Fundacion Libertad. This was not his first campaign. He had previously launched social media campaigns against Evo Morales in Bolivia and Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador in Mexico.

The first account that used #SOSCuba in relation to the Covid situation in Cuba was based in Spain. On both July 10 and 11, it sent more than a thousand tweets, with an automatic rate of 5 retweets per second. This is done by so-called bots.

Some of the robots used in this campaign are state of the art, expensive and very difficult to detect. We should not forget that the US has recently created a special command for war in cyberspace.

In his research Tovar points out that tweets were sent to artists in Cuba and in Miami to participate with #SOSCuba: protest for the deaths caused by Covid and the lack of medical resources. More than 1,100 responses were received to this tweet.

Remarkably, almost all of those are from accounts that were created recently or no longer ago than one year. More than 1,500 accounts were created between July 10 and 11. The operation made intensive use of robots, algorithms and accounts newly created for the occasion.

With hundreds of thousands of tweets and the participation of many artist accounts, the hashtag became trending in several countries on Sunday July 11. All that was needed were a few hundred Cubans to take to the streets.

The first demonstration in the town of San Antonio de Los Banos, 16 miles from Havana, was immediately publicised in the US by Yusnaby’s account with thousands of retweets. Yusnaby (US Navy) is a typical example of an automated fake account.

All this suggests that there has been a campaign to attack the Cuban government and blame it for the hardships facing the Cuban people.

The messages sent out into the world are full of fake news. One post, retweeted hundreds of times, shows a ten-thousand-strong crowd allegedly marching along the Malecon, Havana’s grand seaside boulevard. Reuters photo checkers found that it is actually a photo — in weak resolution — of a mass demonstration in Alexandria, Egypt, from February 2011. Zoomed in fragments show Egyptian flags.

Another piece of false information sent out into the world is the photo of protesters at the statue of Maximo Gomez in Havana. These were not counter-protesters but supporters of the Cuban revolution. Loads of media outlets and major newspapers like the New York Times and The Grauniad spread this piece of fake news. Reversing reality is a trick that has been used several times in the past on other occasions, including in Venezuela.


You are atypical of a person who swallows right wing propaganda for breakfast dinner and tea. Cuba is an example that American capitalists would rather not have on their doorstep so everything is done to discredit them, to harm them and to stop them having a place in the world.

Cut and paste is brilliant