Curious incidents

Right for those who don't get it. We sell AJ (a correct decision IMO), buy Sinclair and then never play him. Was he that bad, was he only bought for the quota numbers? For Swansea he looked a half decent player but we will never know why he wasn't given a chance at City. Was he so bad that he couldn't have started against Leeds or Barnsley for instance. The players performance against Southampton was truly awful, were there problems prior to the game, same at Wembley? Why would Barry with all the time in the world use his weaker foot to clear the ball. I am not saying he was fixing a game, far from it, but a lot of things have happened this year that don't make sense. A bit like when Boro stuffed us 8-1, did the players just not give a shit?
 
Eds said:
Right for those who don't get it. We sell AJ (a correct decision IMO), buy Sinclair and then never play him. Was he that bad, was he only bought for the quota numbers? For Swansea he looked a half decent player but we will never know why he wasn't given a chance at City. Was he so bad that he couldn't have started against Leeds or Barnsley for instance. The players performance against Southampton was truly awful, were there problems prior to the game, same at Wembley? Why would Barry with all the time in the world use his weaker foot to clear the ball. I am not saying he was fixing a game, far from it, but a lot of things have happened this year that don't make sense. A bit like when Boro stuffed us 8-1, did the players just not give a shit?
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Please, stop beating around the bush, mate, and asking questions.

Tell us what you think! Why do you think all this has happened? What is your theory?
 
OK heres one

After the Man Utd game at WBA yesterday SAF and 3 others were clearly shown drinking wine on the coach.
Now I aint no legal eagle but why didnt the police take action after all we all know its illegal on any coach taking passengers to or from a football match in the UK and that includes players& officals
Now wouldnt that make great headlines that the police charged Man Utd out going manager
 
I kind of know what the OP's on about. Things such as :

* Who gave Alan Ball the information that a draw would keep us up?
* Was it a rag special agent in the Main Stand?
* Was David Gill really on the panel that decided Adebayor's punishment?
* Why did SKY pull every ex rag player in for an interview after Wobblegob got coined but completely ignored Craig Bellamy having a bottle thrown at him at Old Trafford?

That sort of stuff?
 
terraloon said:
OK heres one

After the Man Utd game at WBA yesterday SAF and 3 others were clearly shown drinking wine on the coach.
Now I aint no legal eagle but why didnt the police take action after all we all know its illegal on any coach taking passengers to or from a football match in the UK and that includes players& officals
Now wouldnt that make great headlines that the police charged Man Utd out going manager
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Here's the best explanation I could find and it relates to travelling 'to' a game, not 'from':

Transport Act 1980 - Law relating to Football Excursions
The Traffic Commissioners have powers to attach conditions to public service vehicle licences restricting the carriage of drink on football excursions. British Rail introduced a bye-law to prohibit the carriage and consumption of drink on specified trains.

The Sporting Events (Control of Alcohol etc) Act 1985

-prohibits the possession of alcohol on the way to matches on football special coaches and trains and makes it an offence to be drunk on them

-makes an offence of trying to enter a ground when drunk or in possession of alcohol; of possessing or consuming alcohol within view of the pitch during the period of the match; or being drunk during the period of the match

-provides the police the power to search someone reasonably suspected of committing an offence under the Act, and to arrest such a person: this may include searching coaches or trains carrying passengers to or from matches

I believe this relates to specific services laid on for sporting events, so won't necessarily cover all transport. Whilst getting the normal 3:45 train to Waterloo to see a match may be a routine service, it will no doubt be in the Ts and Cs as to what is and isn't permissable, and I am sure they'll have the caveat (same as National Express etc) that they can request anyone not to drink on their service. If you plan on drinking too much, then I am sure BTP will have no problems with arresting for drunk in a public place or utilising one of their bye laws to ruin your day.

That kinda answers your coach question also, if they request you don't drink on that service then they're within their right to prevent you from travelling or terminating your journey at a safe and convenient spot should they wish to. This is not limited to sporting events.
 
The Flash said:
terraloon said:
OK heres one

After the Man Utd game at WBA yesterday SAF and 3 others were clearly shown drinking wine on the coach.
Now I aint no legal eagle but why didnt the police take action after all we all know its illegal on any coach taking passengers to or from a football match in the UK and that includes players& officals
Now wouldnt that make great headlines that the police charged Man Utd out going manager
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Here's the best explanation I could find and it relates to travelling 'to' a game, not 'from':

Transport Act 1980 - Law relating to Football Excursions
The Traffic Commissioners have powers to attach conditions to public service vehicle licences restricting the carriage of drink on football excursions. British Rail introduced a bye-law to prohibit the carriage and consumption of drink on specified trains.

The Sporting Events (Control of Alcohol etc) Act 1985

-prohibits the possession of alcohol on the way to matches on football special coaches and trains and makes it an offence to be drunk on them

-makes an offence of trying to enter a ground when drunk or in possession of alcohol; of possessing or consuming alcohol within view of the pitch during the period of the match; or being drunk during the period of the match

-provides the police the power to search someone reasonably suspected of committing an offence under the Act, and to arrest such a person: this may include searching coaches or trains carrying passengers to or from matches

I believe this relates to specific services laid on for sporting events, so won't necessarily cover all transport. Whilst getting the normal 3:45 train to Waterloo to see a match may be a routine service, it will no doubt be in the Ts and Cs as to what is and isn't permissable, and I am sure they'll have the caveat (same as National Express etc) that they can request anyone not to drink on their service. If you plan on drinking too much, then I am sure BTP will have no problems with arresting for drunk in a public place or utilising one of their bye laws to ruin your day.

That kinda answers your coach question also, if they request you don't drink on that service then they're within their right to prevent you from travelling or terminating your journey at a safe and convenient spot should they wish to. This is not limited to sporting events.
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Doesnt that say getting drunk going o a game but not allowed on coaches going to or from a football game?
 
Eds said:
Right for those who don't get it. We sell AJ (a correct decision IMO), buy Sinclair and then never play him. Was he that bad, was he only bought for the quota numbers? For Swansea he looked a half decent player but we will never know why he wasn't given a chance at City. Was he so bad that he couldn't have started against Leeds or Barnsley for instance. The players performance against Southampton was truly awful, were there problems prior to the game, same at Wembley? Why would Barry with all the time in the world use his weaker foot to clear the ball. I am not saying he was fixing a game, far from it, but a lot of things have happened this year that don't make sense. A bit like when Boro stuffed us 8-1, did the players just not give a shit?
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Sinclair started against Stoke and Arsenal almost immediately after signing. It might have been better for him to have spent a month or so getting used to the club first.
 
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