currently no trams to etihad

Gonna give night games a miss at this rate, it's a joyless experience by car or tram.

Decided to drive last night from Sale and set-off just after four, simply to get ahead of the rush hour and park up.

Due to the continued problems with Mancunian Way, I have been using the tram, and have missed numerous late goals as a result of running around to the other side of the ground in an attempt to just gain a queue position and get home.

I shouldn't have bothered. It took me close to two-and-a-half hours by car stuck in traffic on the Parkway, then Rusholme/Dickenson Road, then Longsight market.

When I got to the ground I genuinely thought I had got my dates wrong!

Gonna watch the Everton semi on the television as things stand. Manchester is a logistical nightmare, and then soaked to the skin watching a lacklustre display...
 
Gray said:
I may be wrong but these sort of problems don't seem to happen as frequently in London.

Probably because loads more money has been thrown at the infrastructure in and around the capital, an also because they have the underground.

If only we could have built an underground network instead of the piss poor Metrolink, not much chance of a car driving on to the track then.
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It's a joke, I've been driving for 5 years now, and in that time I'd say the traffic has doubled. It's so unsustainable it's ridiculous. The worst part is, I'd use the tram for most of my journeys, but it's so expensive that I can't be bothered - the only other alternative I'd consider is cycling, but the infrastructure for that is awful when compared to similar cities in Europe. They're spunking millions on fast trains, new tram lines and a cycling hub that no one will use when all they need to do is significantly reduce the price of public transport. I'm sure you could round up 10 people on here who could run Manchester better than Manchester City Council.
 
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Last night wasn't a case of the usual traffic problems though. It was a perfect storm in many ways and much of it was down to the accident on the M62 earlier in the day. The motorway was closed off for hours and only re-opened at around 6.45pm I believe. This closure caused a huge knock-on effect in and around Manchester and it meant that as rush hour approached all the main roads were pretty much gridlocked. I work in Trafford Park and live in Gorton. I get a lift home and left work at 4.45pm. There have been issues on the Mancunian Way due to the sinkhole since August but in the past week much of the stretch of the Mancunian Way that had been down to one lane has now been widened to 2 lanes and that in turn has meant a much quicker journey home. Instead of taking 40 minutes it's been taking 20 but last night that went back up to 50. I was one of the lucky ones really - anyone travelling from much further afield than that and coming through town later than I was travelling home would've been totally scuppered (even those going nowhere near the city centre had major problems - my boss lives in Wigan and it took him an hour and 55 minutes just to get off Trafford Park last night when leaving work at 5pm). Add to that the problem with the dickhead driving onto the tram tracks and that's another mode of transport fucked for anyone that relies on the tram system to get to the ground.

It was just a horrendous night all round with all modes of transport apart from the trains being affected. It was a bit shitty not to put the kick-off time back but while that would've helped some fans, for those that simply couldn't get to the ground - both City and Everton fans - it wouldn't have made any difference.
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I too work in Trafford Park and live in Gorton. I left work at 5.30pm to get home for my lift to the game at 6.45pm but I wasn't even half-way home by then. Finally got home at just before 7.30pm & jumped on my bike, finally getting in to the ground with 16 mins gone (just in time for Yaya's header) - couldn't believe that the kick-off hadn't been put back to 8.00pm.

Our problem is that by going back to Gorton before the match, you have to fight your way through the match traffic and out the other side before turning round and joining the traffic again. I've thought about parking up at Eccles Park & Ride and getting the tram but then you've got to get back to Eccles to pick the car up after the game, when in effect you are only a couple of miles from home and if fuckwits are going to drive down tram tracks then that's a waste of time as well.

By going on the bike, I was home after the match at 10.00pm (about 30 mins quicker than usual) but I was pissed wet through. Apologies to the lad who I called a tw@ after he shouted "hurry up Bradley" as I was cycling down Alan Turing Way and he was trying to cross the road - I'd had a shit night & wasn't in the mood, although now I think it was quite funny! [emoji1]
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Gonna give night games a miss at this rate, it's a joyless experience by car or tram.

Decided to drive last night from Sale and set-off just after four, simply to get ahead of the rush hour and park up.

Due to the continued problems with Mancunian Way, I have been using the tram, and have missed numerous late goals as a result of running around to the other side of the ground in an attempt to just gain a queue position and get home.

I shouldn't have bothered. It took me close to two-and-a-half hours by car stuck in traffic on the Parkway, then Rusholme/Dickenson Road, then Longsight market.

When I got to the ground I genuinely thought I had got my dates wrong!

Gonna watch the Everton semi on the television as things stand. Manchester is a logistical nightmare, and then soaked to the skin watching a lacklustre display...
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I know what you mean mate, live in Sale near the Pelican. Had to wait for the wife to get home from work and she was stuck on the M60 so I couldn't set off until 18:45. Ended up getting the tram form Timperley to Piccadilly station, then a taxi to just near Every Street followed by getting soaked up to and inside the ground which I finally got to at 20:10.

I suppose on the plus side it didn't take two and a half hours to get there.
 
Manchester33 said:
Is there anywhere we can complain to about the ongoing traffic problems in Greater Manchester?
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You could try the CEO of Manchester City Council Howard Bernstein who is a match attending City fan, can be see in the Chairman's Lounge at games got a Swales comb-over. Not sure if genuine but here is his email h.bernstein@manchester.gov.uk
 
airfrance7 said:
You never EVER see the Rags have games KO before 2000 hrs so why do MCFC always have 1945 hrs Kick offs? What is the difference?
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No choice in the CL, that is set by UEFA.

The rags are usually on TV, so they're nearly always 8:00pm KO, except CL as stated above.

Personally I prefer 7:45pm, as I get home at a reasonable time (just after 1am this morning), later KO's mean there's more likely hood that the motorways will be closed for overnight roadworks, though even the 7:45 starts occasionally have closures, in fact last night was the first time this season there were none.
 
speaking to a group of Everton fans on the way out of the game. They didnt arrive until 5 minutes into the second half. £52 for 40 mins of football which resulted in a 0-0 draw (not including travel/beer/food costs).

Would feel sorry for them but at the end of the day, they are scousers.
 
Someone was saying the other day that we don't need a railway station. Sorry, but this is an example of why we do, and will even more if the ground grows to 60,000 plus. At present it doesn't take much to reduce Greater Manchester to total gridlock, as amply demonstrated yesterday.
 
for me, it was a nightmare set off at 4-30 from Donny went to pick 1 mate up then off to to pick another mate up. so 5 -10 then to get the m18 to connect to m1 but it was bad in maltby and took about 20 extra mins to get throu, anyway pick last mate up at dodworth and 1 mate said don't go woodhead way as we will hit traffic in Manchester, so we went holmforth way, not bad till we hit the top bloody blizzard so it took ages but we got to Manchester about 7, went to park to get a tram and someome said trams out of action and we was about 5 miles away, got back into car and parked up about 7-40 just off aston new rd. got to ground just after ko and watched that game, got back to car and had a parking ticket and it took me till 12-30 t0 get back. think that I leave night games alone from now on. if trams was running it would of got me to ground in 10-15 mins and home about 11-45. in fact FUCK NIGHT GAMES
 
There was an accident on the M62 about 12-30. According to some reports there were no serious injuries yet it took the five and a half hours to reopen it. Why? That is an extremely busy bit of motorway and it's a disgrace to leave it closed for so long unless they were investigating a death or it needed resurfacing.
The City Council has spent the last 40 years fucking the city centre. Roads closed here, there and every fucking where for new buildings or pedestrianisation. And where does the traffic go? On a badly designed ring road with more choke points than the Boston fucking Strangler.
All over the city buildings are being built in a way that encroaches on the roads, while other roads are closed for the second city crossing and some fuck-witted bus priority scheme. Princess Street will be two way for a short length so Oxford Road can be buses and bikes only.
So where the fuck can the traffic go when the motorways are broken? No-fucking-where.
And Salford Council are even bigger twats. A new wide cycle lane on Great Clowes Street ffs. It just fucks the traffic.
The Crescent going past Salford University used to be three lanes each way but it's now one lane and a bus lane. It's hardly a surprise the whole thing grinds to a halt when just a single alternative route is closed.
Even the third-world conurbation at the western end of the East Lancs Road has had the sense to scrap most of the bus lanes as they do nothing to help traffic flow. But the anti-motoring Luddite twats in charge of transport in Manchester and Salford are only interested in their narrow agendas and couldn't give a fuck about the inconvenience they cause. Have I mentioned they are all twats? Twats the fucking lot of them.
And while we're on the subject of twats, what about Twatrolink? They keep telling us the signs used to indicate tram only sections meet all the regulations. Well in that case why the fuck do a succession of fuck-muppets keep driving onto the tracks? Are these drivers ever punished for ignoring the signs or are the signs just not clear enough? And as a mate asked last night, having walked from town; why weren't they announcing the problem so people wouldn't assume an Ashton or Etihad tram would soon arrive?
 
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What did SS3 look like at kick off. I couldnt believe the number of empty seats in other areas at kick off but it didn't seem that empty in SS3 as not that many people came up the steps during the game although I sit right at the side so difficult to tell. Was it just as empty?
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
What did SS3 look like at kick off. I couldnt believe the number of empty seats in other areas at kick off but it didn't seem that empty in SS3 as not that many people came up the steps during the game although I sit right at the side so difficult to tell. Was it just as empty?
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The whole stadium was the same at kick off including the Everton end, over half empty. Gradually filled up until it was about 80% full 10 mins into second half.
 
At least on MOTD they did mention that the empty seats were not because they hadn't sold but because of the traffic!!

@East Level 2, apart from the language, which I fell about laughing at, I agree with you totally especially the Salford one, living in Salford. The East Lancs Rd Bus way scheme is a running joke around the city and the nightmare traffic jams are racking up more and more as weeks go on.

Even my short journey to where we pick up the Eccles coach which normally takes me 3 or 4 minutes has taken me nearer 25 minutes the last couple of night games. I've racked my brains for another way round and there isn't one........ and before people say I could walk, I can't walk that distance any more, sorry. Two years ago I would have done it in a heartbeat but as it happens I want to keep that old heart beating!!! ;-)
 
East Level 2 said:
There was an accident on the M62 about 12-30. According to some reports there were no serious injuries yet it took the five and a half hours to reopen it. Why? That is an extremely busy bit of motorway and it's a disgrace to leave it closed for so long unless they were investigating a death or it needed resurfacing.
The City Council has spent the last 40 years fucking the city centre. Roads closed here, there and every fucking where for new buildings or pedestrianisation. And where does the traffic go? On a badly designed ring road with more choke points than the Boston fucking Strangler.
All over the city buildings are being built in a way that encroaches on the roads, while other roads are closed for the second city crossing and some fuck-witted bus priority scheme. Princess Street will be two way for a short length so Oxford Road can be buses and bikes only.
So where the fuck can the traffic go when the motorways are broken? No-fucking-where.
And Salford Council are even bigger twats. A new wide cycle lane on Great Clowes Street ffs. It just fucks the traffic.
The Crescent going past Salford University used to be three lanes each way but it's now one lane and a bus lane. It's hardly a surprise the whole thing grinds to a halt when just a single alternative route is closed.
Even the third-world conurbation at the western end of the East Lancs Road has had the sense to scrap most of the bus lanes as they do nothing to help traffic flow. But the anti-motoring Luddite twats in charge of transport in Manchester and Salford are only interested in their narrow agendas and couldn't give a fuck about the inconvenience they cause. Have I mentioned they are all twats? Twats the fucking lot of them.
And while we're on the subject of twats, what about Twatrolink? They keep telling us the signs used to indicate tram only sections meet all the regulations. Well in that case why the fuck do a succession of fuck-muppets keep driving onto the tracks? Are these drivers ever punished for ignoring the signs or are the signs just not clear enough? And as a mate asked last night, having walked from town; why weren't they announcing the problem so people wouldn't assume an Ashton or Etihad tram would soon arrive?
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tremendous outburst pal...take a bow....
 
Seems we got lucky. Left Worksop at 5.15 and were in the stadium for about 7.15 which was actually a very good run for us. That said my sat nav did a good job re routing around traffic delays and I did the "what a wanker" thing on Motram Hill pushing in at the last minute to save a few minutes! Journey home was a bit more entertaining as I had to go via the Snake Pass in the snow however still back for 11.15. Still fucking hate night games though as my lad can't join me on 'school nights' (and looking at the empty seats in the family stand he wasn't alone)
 
the whole infrastructure of the country is at breaking point,roads railways,hospitals ,ect not
Gray said:
I may be wrong but these sort of problems don't seem to happen as frequently in London.

Probably because loads more money has been thrown at the infrastructure in and around the capital, an also because they have the underground.

If only we could have built an underground network instead of the piss poor Metrolink, not much chance of a car driving on to the track then.
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we need a undergound to complement the metro ,not happening i know ,btw the traffic nightmares are not unique to manchester the whole countrys infrastructure is creaking under the pressure,too many cars ,too many people, whoops can i say that
 
Take a bow Manchester Blue - teaching the dickheads on RAWK scoffing at the amount of empty seats a lesson:

"Thrilling 3-3 draw at home to the league leaders... Comes on thread about another club to talk shit about attendances.

Perhaps if you ever exeperience going to a game one day you might have some sympathy for those who gave up trying to get to a game they'd paid good money for because of total gridlock around Manchester and suspension of the tram service to the ground. But you'll never get any further than the pub will you?

And I notice not one of the posters on here taking the piss was at Anfield last night and one has nearly 450,000 posts on a football forum plus a custom title that should be in Private Eye's Pseuds Corner. What an exciting life he must have.
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I bet the real Liverpool fans, the ones I know who know all about the cost and effort it takes to actually go to games, are cringing at some of the plastic, keyboard warriors who have attached themselves to their club."
 
Mopeds are the future - been thinking about it all day. Manchester is getting busier and everyone wants to drive. In big European cities there are thousands of mopeds which cut down the number of cars.
 
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