Why do they have to test him over longer distances? So in your eyes to be a great great horse you have to run over distances outside what you were bred for? Let me guess Camelot would of beaten him? Look at the form of the horses frankel has beat then compare with Camelot speaks for it's self. I'm only bringing up Camelot because I know you will soon enough.leighton said:Of course I can knock Frankel and I have done so over the years. He wasnt tested until he was 4 in a longer distance race. Which for the greatest horse of all time is a bit of cop out in my view. They could of tested him as a 3 year old but couldnt be arsed about it. Greatest miler of all time greatest horse not too sure about that.
Black Caviar is a great horse the greatest sprinter that has won races over 5 , 6 and 7 furlongs. Black Caviar is a sprinter and a top class sprinter.welcometomanchester said:So for example black caviar in your eyes isn't a great great horse?
You know Frankel's breeding is mostly Irish with Gallieo and Kind so it doesnt matter were the horse is from or runs. He could of been tested far more over more than a mile in my opinion. Training might be from the UK. Just think there is a lot of What Ifs with Frankel. I am not doubting that he is the greatest miler of all time but horse not too sure about that. Dont let the British media love affair with the horse go into over drive mate.welcometomanchester said:I'm gona say it mate, if he was Irish you would say best ever.
welcometomanchester said:Just seen this.
The 10 (different) horses that finished 2nd to Frankel have won 7 x G3's, 9 x G2's and 16 x G1's between them. Not too shabby.
Need I say any more?
The cookie monster said:welcometomanchester said:Just seen this.
The 10 (different) horses that finished 2nd to Frankel have won 7 x G3's, 9 x G2's and 16 x G1's between them. Not too shabby.
Need I say any more?
He is or was the greatest horse ever
By a distance too
Can someone get the table from this link,and put it up here......taleighton said:See Paddy Power for the jumps season are doing a handicap betting for the UK championships.
N Henderson (scratch)
7/1
P Nicholls (+800k)
7/1
D McCain (+1.3mn)
7/1
A King (+1.8mn)
7/1
D Pipe (+2mn)
7/1
P Hobbs (+2mn)
7/1
N Twiston-Davies (+2.5mn)
7/1
T Vaughan (+2.5mn)
7/1
E Williams (+2.5mn)
All at 7/1 the interesting 1 is David Pipe for me.
£1 stakes on all McCain horses would of got you £18 odd quid! WOW that is amazing.Garrinchas---Dog said:Can someone get the table from this link,and put it up here......taleighton said:See Paddy Power for the jumps season are doing a handicap betting for the UK championships.
N Henderson (scratch)
7/1
P Nicholls (+800k)
7/1
D McCain (+1.3mn)
7/1
A King (+1.8mn)
7/1
D Pipe (+2mn)
7/1
P Hobbs (+2mn)
7/1
N Twiston-Davies (+2.5mn)
7/1
T Vaughan (+2.5mn)
7/1
E Williams (+2.5mn)
All at 7/1 the interesting 1 is David Pipe for me.
http://www.fatjockey.com/news-blogs/racing_news.php?2011-12-National-Hunt-Trainer-Stats-95
Twiston Davis had a shocking year,could be a bit of value +2.5mill