Daily Mail Article (Pep allegedly wants improved atmosphere)

Gary James said:
Absolutely true! Lots wrong with atmosphere at all PL clubs and the PL should look at what it does. The Mail are being a bit cheeky here and not comparing like for like. Look at NUFC when they were midtable etc. Look at NUFC's crowds in 90s. Compare them with City.

What we need - and I would be happy to do this or to help - is for us to start boasting about our achievements, our loyalty, our unique atmosphere etc. Pep probably still does not know enough about our (MCFC that is) culture and history and, let's face it, anyone growing up on Barca and CL football will think City had nothing pre-2008. We know the truth and rather than focus on us as the team that scraped through a play off in 1999 we need to start shaking football by saying/boasting what we've done. This Sunday is a case in point. It's the 113th anniversary of our first major trophy on Sunday yet Arsenal will probably try to make out we've not got the trophy winning history they have - we won a major trophy 26 years BEFORE them, so let's shout out about this. Let's tell all about our achievements.

As fans we were always great at knocking our history/self-deprecation and I think that was great, but now... the media seem to delight in the fact that we were once shite and now we're good but our fans haven't grown/moved on or whatever they try to say.

Stuff the Emptyhad - our support is bigger than ever and when I went to AC Milan the other week they had about 38,000 for a top flight game. San Siro or Sans Fans? No one abuses them because, well lots of reasons including an owner (sorry former owner) who controlled the media. They also had plenty of fans leaving ten mins before the end and almost everyone in the stand I was in was a tourist of some sort.

Every week we should be boasting that our 54,000 crowd (or whatever) is a demonstration of a growing, forward looking club.

Atmosphere needs work; people need to stay until the end; but more than anything else we all need to recognise that MCFC is a major club, with a fan base that stayed loyal through a (generally) lacklustre 25-30 year period at a time when it's nearest rivals enjoyed phenomenal success. No other English team (possibly European team) has been faced with this over that period. City fans are loyal and committed, where were NUFC fans when they were sh*t? And they don't even share their city with the so-called World's Biggest Club!
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Happy to help in any way.

Count me in.
 
Eccles Blue said:
At least Mr Pellegrini acknowledged the fans when they chanted the Sheikh Mansour chant, I've never seen Guardiola acknowledge the fans when they chant about us having Guardiola! He appears more concerned at chopping and changing the team, playing a weakened team against the rags and he definitely hasn't got any more charisma than our last managers! Keegan, Pearce, Ericson,Hughes,Mancini, Pellegrini all had charisma and knew that the fans were important.

I do agree with you though that it is the job of the team to get us excited and cheering and it hasn't been happening but now the Vincent Kompany is back and we've got some leadership on the pitch maybe it will happen again.
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He's there to manage the team and chop change players, play teams as he feels fit, no make sure you feel better by bloody waving when his names sang.

Ffs this place st times.
 
Eccles Blue said:
At least Mr Pellegrini acknowledged the fans when they chanted the Sheikh Mansour chant, I've never seen Guardiola acknowledge the fans when they chant about us having Guardiola! He appears more concerned at chopping and changing the team, playing a weakened team against the rags and he definitely hasn't got any more charisma than our last managers! Keegan, Pearce, Ericson,Hughes,Mancini, Pellegrini all had charisma and knew that the fans were important.

I do agree with you though that it is the job of the team to get us excited and cheering and it hasn't been happening but now the Vincent Kompany is back and we've got some leadership on the pitch maybe it will happen again.
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That's a good point, Guardiola has got rid of Joe, hardly plays Zaba and hasn't exactly gone out of his way with Vinny, 3 players who are leaders. Getting a few leaders on the pitch might help generate a bit more passion, as might playing a higher tempo game from the off
 
I sit in the family stand at home. Any opportunity im up screaming and singing. My son has been coming with me since he was 3. Hes 11 now. Before he was embarrased at my emotion. The last couple of years he started to latch on and join in, as have other young ones that have been coming since nipper too. The miserable and tourists stand out a mile when the family stand gets it voice. They just flat out refuse to join in. I used to get THAT look a few years ago for showing emotion. Now most of those lookers dare not look at me any more. I thinnk they get the picture now. I and probably other parents who get up to sing see it as an opportunity not just to get behind my team, but to teach the young ones how to support too.
 
Some good points being made on here and excellent post by Gary James. The only thing that annoys me is that the pathetic Daily Mail is mentioned in the title.

I haven't seen any of the remarks attributed to Newcastle fans but would point out that their average home attendance last season in the Premier League was 49754.Our average home attendance last season was 54041. It is so crazy that we seem to be on the defensive yet get bigger crowds than them. Maybe someone should point that out to these Geordies.
 
willipp said:
Yes but i bet you loved watching Baker Street singing live on the centre circle just before kick off ;)

But yes, i think there is plenty the club can do and i thnk the likes of 1894 are really helping. But unless these initiatives are supported by the club with a long term vision to improve the atmosphere then the reality is it will just stay as it is or get worse.
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I met the 1894 group and they've made a great effort so far, but i think they need more support and there isn't too many Blues who are interested in providing actual help and support/making it become a bigger thing, other supporters just want to hold a banner or flag for a couple of minutes each game. Totally agree, I don't think the suits upstairs in commercial and marketing departments understand the positives a good atmosphere can bring to the club, on and off the field, look at dortmund and how popular they have become off the back of some talented players AND an incredible atmosphere.
 
inchy14 said:
Where did i say they don't take in tactics etc abroad?
What i'm saying is atmospheres are shit all around England, every club has fans complaining about it, we slag every other team of saying it's like a library. Do you think the rest of Europe isn't similar? Barca etc don't sell out every week, their atmosphere is crap most of the time. If people are expecting Turkish style atmospheres in England with flares or Germany with drums their in for disappointment i'm afraid.

Yes tickets could be cheaper, beer could be cheaper and be allowed at your seat, you really think people will be up singing constantly if these changes happened?

Also why do you think working class aren't going? it's the majority of the crowd every week ffs.
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You said. Here compared with the rest of Europe the fans go to watch the game and the tactics...... your words .

The ticket prices in Spain are way lower. I know because I have bought them. Yes on the whole atmosphere in this country is shit and it is not just City. I do believe that if there was a number of initiative's it could be improved.

Remember one game when Stuart Pearce had atmosphere tannoyed in to the East stand. We could do with 4 ghetto blasters in each corner of the the ground at the moment (only joking)
 
kippax4ever said:
The Bar-coders are in on it now.

Manchester City owners realising should have bought Newcastle as can’t sell Wembley allocation

After looking at buying Newcastle, they instead bought Manchester City, how the owners must regretting it with latest Wembley embarrassment.

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Before they decided on Manchester City, the club’s owners were widely reported to have first looked at buying Newcastle United.

Despite the incredible amounts of cash they have poured into the club, especially when it comes to putting top quality players on the pitch, the Manchester City owners have seen the supporters repeatedly fail to respond in kind.

Pretty much every Premier League match you can see thousands of empty seats at the Etihad, as no matter how much money is spent, the City fans don’t fill the ground.


With the latest news on Thursday, the Manchester City owners will definitely have been wishing they’d tried a bit harder to buy Newcastle United instead.

Sky Sports have revealed that astonishingly, Manchester City have failed to sell all of their FA Cup semi-final allocation.

The glamour game sees them up against Arsenal at Wembley and with one day of sales remaining, the club have confirmed to Sky Sports that just under two thousand tickets haven’t been sold yet.

Considering this is the only competition that Man City could still win this season, it is incredible that the tickets weren’t snapped up straight away and over-subscribed.

Sky Sports say that reasons/excuses put forward on behalf of the Manchester City supporters is that a 3pm kick-off on Sunday means fans would get back to Manchester late that night.


There are allegedly also fears amongst their supporters of extra traffic congestion because the London Marathon is also on that day.

Chelsea meet Spurs in the other semi-final on Saturday afternoon.

The reality of course though is that these excuses are just embarrassing and not being able to sell out this Wembley allocation surely indicates once and for all, that no matter how much money the owners pour into the club, Manchester City fans are never going to truly appreciate it.

Now surely they must be able to get Mike Ashley’s phone number from someone…

(All contributions from Newcastle fans welcome, send articles (as well as
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What a complete bunch of twats. When were they last at Wembley, our fans have spent a small fortune going there in recent years.

Don't they also realise that they have no other distraction in their city, we have to compete with the media darlings who can do no wrong.

The majority of the fans from the other three teams in the semis have to spend far less to get to Wembley than our fans do and if we win the match they will have to fork out all over again a month later.
 
I'm sure he's old enough to remember when Newcastle got 12,000 at home

Also.

Cast your minds back.

I seem to remember Newcastle only filling the lower tier of the away end when they last plaged us at the Etihad. They couldn't even muster 3000 fans to Manchester.

The Geordies have very short and selective memories.

And as usual next season, they will be PL cannon fodder.
 
How much has Pep really said? We know what our sports press are like(****s the lot of them) they only need the tiniest bit of feedback to say what they already wanted to say before they posed the question. I would be interested in the full quote from Pep, I reckon it will be a one sentence answer.

He doesn't like leaving early and the atmosphere could be better, those two points are the same for pretty much every top 6 team with a big stadium. What it seems like they are wishing for is that Pep is longing to go to a "big club" now and doesn't consider City one... what they are too braindead to realise is it's NOT better at the Rags, or Liverpool so they can fuck off with their self deluded shite Klopp said it about their media darlings already.

With the leaving early, I will say that the last game I went to, just after the final whistle I wanted to stay until the players came over but literally everyone in my section had got up to leave which means if you want to stay you have the awkwardness of letting a long stream of people squeeze past you, at which point I thought forget it. It might be like that for some of the 10minutes early sections, were they might have stayed(undecided) but that makes their mind up.
 
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Pep should nip back to Bayern, get a few of those Bayern loons with megaphones, get a couple of tall mobile steps, stick them in front of the SS and behind the goal, and see if they can do something about improving the atmosphere at City.
 
I thought the Wembley story was bollocks anyway? Are we really struggling to sell our allocation?
 
Remember Hamburg? £5 a ticket not fifty odd quid.City square was created with the best of intentions but Hugh Ferris sat there interviewing a cricketer,a boxer or a few weeks ago a squash player!,how the **** will that build a pre match atmosphere?
 
Does anyone really give a fuck what the daily mail says about us?
Typical bullshit story as per from the rag loving shite paper, i wouldn't give any credibility to what they say.
If City really want the fans to stay to the end of the games then maybe they should get on to the wanker's who run the metrolink.
Is it beyond their comprehension that they need to put double units on back to Ashton to cut back on the congestion .
I always stay till the end and although it pisses me off people leaving before the end as it blocks my view, i can understand why they try to avoid the queues at full time as the exits are very narrow and from SS3 it is a nightmare.
But to be honest i would hate to have to endure the chorioghaphed bollocks they have in Germany.
 
blue by birth said:
Does anyone really give a fuck what the daily mail says about us?
Typical bullshit story as per from the rag loving shite paper, i wouldn't give any credibility to what they say.
If City really want the fans to stay to the end of the games then maybe they should get on to the wanker's who run the metrolink.
Is it beyond their comprehension that they need to put double units on back to Ashton to cut back on the congestion .
I always stay till the end and although it pisses me off people leaving before the end as it blocks my view, i can understand why they try to avoid the queues at full time as the exits are very narrow and from SS3 it is a nightmare.
But to be honest i would hate to have to endure the chorioghaphed bollocks they have in Germany.
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How can you not want a City player conga line dancing for you at the end?
 
blue by birth said:
Does anyone really give a fuck what the daily mail says about us?
Typical bullshit story as per from the rag loving shite paper, i wouldn't give any credibility to what they say.
If City really want the fans to stay to the end of the games then maybe they should get on to the wanker's who run the metrolink.
Is it beyond their comprehension that they need to put double units on back to Ashton to cut back on the congestion .
I always stay till the end and although it pisses me off people leaving before the end as it blocks my view, i can understand why they try to avoid the queues at full time as the exits are very narrow and from SS3 it is a nightmare.
But to be honest i would hate to have to endure the chorioghaphed bollocks they have in Germany.
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I stay to the end also but sitting at the back of SS3 the queues to exit the stand and then onto the stairs are ridiculous. My friends who I meet after the game sit directly below me in level 2 and every match they have to wait. It is hard to fathom how the stand could be designed in such a way and I can fully understand why people leave early rather than get caught up in the crush and queue on the steep stairwells particularly if you are old or have kids.
 
Read something about the atmosphere in the MUEN @StuBrennan nothing said tonight about this...

 
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