Prestwich_Blue
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I was wondering that myself!Skashion said:
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David Cameron accused of Iran nuclear 'gaffe'
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BoyBlue_1985
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Skashion said:What are you trying to say here?BoyBlue_1985 said:No no no Prestwich we trying to get Brown back in power with his goldfish speaches
That Manchester is pro labour so ever tory gaff is made out huge. Cameroon may have said some wrong things. Well 2 in the last week although the Pakistan 1 wasnt a gaff he ment it.
I personally think he is doing an alright job of saving this country from extinction through terrible labour rule. It is gonna cost us all and trust me i feel it already but its gotta be done.
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Prestwich_Blue said:I was wondering that myself!Skashion said:What are you trying to say here?
It was a joke, a terrible 1 granted
Prestwich_Blue
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They gave us over $30bn of aid (that's nearly £500bn in today's prices). that enabled us to ensure some of our domestic manufacturing/production resources were used for non-military purposes. Without that, there would have been even more severe shortages of various goods.Skashion said:That's a strong statement and one I'd like you to produce some evidence for.Prestwich_Blue said:He was totally correct. Without American money and military aid (i.e. Lend Lease, convoy support) we'd have been finished by 1941.
Also they were able to provide our convoys with escorts in the Western Atlantic and US coastal waters, which ensured that our own ships didn't have to make the full journey. This meant our own escorts could do twice as many journeys.
In addition, they supplied thousands of trucks to Russia, without which they could not have kept their armies supplied in the crucial battles for Moscow & Leningrad. Even Stalin, not a man noted for giving credit to others, admitted the war could not have been won without this aid.
Bigga
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Prestwich_Blue said:They gave us over $30bn of aid (that's nearly £500bn in today's prices). that enabled us to ensure some of our domestic manufacturing/production resources were used for non-military purposes. Without that, there would have been even more severe shortages of various goods.Skashion said:That's a strong statement and one I'd like you to produce some evidence for.
Also they were able to provide our convoys with escorts in the Western Atlantic and US coastal waters, which ensured that our own ships didn't have to make the full journey. This meant our own escorts could do twice as many journeys.
In addition, they supplied thousands of trucks to Russia, without which they could not have kept their armies supplied in the crucial battles for Moscow & Leningrad. Even Stalin, not a man noted for giving credit to others, admitted the war could not have been won without this aid.
You do know that the US hesitated about joining Europe in the War?! They hedged their bets, for a while, which is why they didn't help sooner.
They considered backing Hitler.
Some kind of fanfare they deserve...
Prestwich_Blue
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Once they introduced the Lend Lease Act they were as good as in the war and Hitler regarded them as combatants. however there were many who didn't want any involvement whatsoever and the only reason Lend Lease got passed is that it was done when about 60 Democrats were at a lunch.Bigga said:Prestwich_Blue said:They gave us over $30bn of aid (that's nearly £500bn in today's prices). that enabled us to ensure some of our domestic manufacturing/production resources were used for non-military purposes. Without that, there would have been even more severe shortages of various goods.
Also they were able to provide our convoys with escorts in the Western Atlantic and US coastal waters, which ensured that our own ships didn't have to make the full journey. This meant our own escorts could do twice as many journeys.
In addition, they supplied thousands of trucks to Russia, without which they could not have kept their armies supplied in the crucial battles for Moscow & Leningrad. Even Stalin, not a man noted for giving credit to others, admitted the war could not have been won without this aid.
You do know that the US hesitated about joining Europe in the War?! They hedged their bets, for a while, which is why they didn't help sooner.
They considered backing Hitler.
Some kind of fanfare they deserve...
BoyBlue_1985
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Bigga said:Prestwich_Blue said:They gave us over $30bn of aid (that's nearly £500bn in today's prices). that enabled us to ensure some of our domestic manufacturing/production resources were used for non-military purposes. Without that, there would have been even more severe shortages of various goods.
Also they were able to provide our convoys with escorts in the Western Atlantic and US coastal waters, which ensured that our own ships didn't have to make the full journey. This meant our own escorts could do twice as many journeys.
In addition, they supplied thousands of trucks to Russia, without which they could not have kept their armies supplied in the crucial battles for Moscow & Leningrad. Even Stalin, not a man noted for giving credit to others, admitted the war could not have been won without this aid.
You do know that the US hesitated about joining Europe in the War?! They hedged their bets, for a while, which is why they didn't help sooner.
They considered backing Hitler.
Some kind of fanfare they deserve...
Well actually what happened is they didnt want to join "are" war and declared war on Japan after Pearl Harbour but in doing that Germany declared war on America due to Japan being allies with them. They never wanted to back Hitler and if they had of considered that they wouldnt of bother lending us , money, food, tanks, weapons
The fact of the matter is they didnt want to go to war at all with anyone as they were far away from Europe
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MadchesterCity said:I seriously hope Turkey doesn't get into the EU
They will with Bully boy promoting them. Which will mean an influx of turks being paid on less than minimum wages by unscrupulous bosses. Tory twonk won't give a shit as his mates will get richer.
BoyBlue_1985 said:That Manchester is pro labour so ever tory gaff is made out huge. Cameroon may have said some wrong things. Well 2 in the last week although the Pakistan 1 wasnt a gaff he ment it.
I personally think he is doing an alright job of saving this country from extinction through terrible labour rule. It is gonna cost us all and trust me i feel it already but its gotta be done.
Its gonna cost us all? - because we all caused it did we? come on its bollocks - but its obviously working on some.
and knowing David Cameron is a twat does not mean you support Labour.
BoyBlue_1985
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bluetom said:BoyBlue_1985 said:That Manchester is pro labour so ever tory gaff is made out huge. Cameroon may have said some wrong things. Well 2 in the last week although the Pakistan 1 wasnt a gaff he ment it.
I personally think he is doing an alright job of saving this country from extinction through terrible labour rule. It is gonna cost us all and trust me i feel it already but its gotta be done.
Its gonna cost us all? - because we all caused it did we? come on its bollocks - but its obviously working on some.
and knowing David Cameron is a twat does not mean you support Labour.
Oh no i know he is a twat!!!
Ronnie the Rep
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bluetom said:BoyBlue_1985 said:That Manchester is pro labour so ever tory gaff is made out huge. Cameroon may have said some wrong things. Well 2 in the last week although the Pakistan 1 wasnt a gaff he ment it.
I personally think he is doing an alright job of saving this country from extinction through terrible labour rule. It is gonna cost us all and trust me i feel it already but its gotta be done.
Its gonna cost us all? - because we all caused it did we? come on its bollocks - but its obviously working on some.
and knowing David Cameron is a twat does not mean you support Labour.
sorry mate that's nonsense. It doesn't matter who caused the problem the fact is we are all going to have to pay and I would rather trust Cameron gaffes and all than that control freak Scottish twunt Brown