David Cameron

smudgedj said:
Rascal said:
smudgedj said:
Michael Foot, when an ordinary Member of Parliament, had regular meetings for nearly 20 years with KGB officers and took money from them - honest and integrity my arse.

You are going to of course supply proof of this in due course im sure.

Im sure you know from your study of Marx that he thought socialism was the biggest danger to Communism

I dont expect you understand that mind

Next Stop Execution - If you can't believe the 'highest-ranking KGB agent working in Britain' who can you believe.

Oh yeah - 'I dont expect you understand that mind' - well of course.

What this utterly cretinous RWNJ fails to report is that Michael Foot later successfully sued the Sunday Times for libel for printing these ludicrous allegations.


"The Sunday Times was forced into a humiliating climb-down at the High Court yesterday over its allegations that Michael Foot was considered an "agent of influence" by the KGB.
The 81-year-old former Labour leader had sued the paper and its proprietor Rupert Murdoch over a three-page article last February, which - under the headline "KGB: Michael Foot was our agent" - detailed how the KGB had courted Labour politicians and trade union officials during the Sixties.
The story alleged Mr Foot had operated under the codename "Boot" and that the Soviet intelligence service made cash payments to the left-wing journal Tribune while he was editor.
Under a settlement read out in open court, the paper offered Mr Foot "substantial" damages - which with legal costs are believed to run to at least pounds 100,000 - and an assurance that it had never intended to suggest that he had been a spy.
Mr Foot, who was in court for the brief hearing, said afterwards: "I think the libel laws are very severe on newspapers ... But what the Sunday Times said was so serious - that I was a spy who had served one of the most wicked organisations that has existed this century - I thought it had to be wiped clear."
His solicitor David Price said that Times Newspapers' unsuccessful attempt to prevent Mr Murdoch from appearing in court had prompted the company's decision to reach a settlement. Mr Foot added: "If he [Mr Murdoch] owns newspapers which can make accusations of this nature, he should appear in court when they are raised."
The original allegations about Mr Foot and several trade unionists were contained in a manuscript of the Soviet defector Oleg Gordievsky's memoirs Next Stop Execution, bought by the Sunday Times last September for serialisation. Mr Gordievsky's publisher, Macmillan, was reluctant to risk naming Mr Foot without any supporting evidence. When the Spectator magazine unmasked another name on Mr Gordievsky's list - that of Richard Gott, then literary editor of the Guardian - last December, the Sunday Times feared its prize serialisation would be trumped.
In need of corroboration, John Witherow, the newspaper's editor, dispatched a reporter to Moscow, where interviews were conducted with several former KGB officers, including Mikhail Lyubimov and Viktor Kubeykin.
However, Mr Lyubimov later told the Independent that to suggest Mr Foot had been an agent was "a ridiculous smear", while Mr Kubeykin called the Sunday Times article "a 100 per cent distortion" of what he had told the reporter.
On the day the story appeared, Mr Witherow admitted on BBC Radio that the allegation that Mr Foot was an agent might be "utter rubbish", adding that the Sunday Times was merely suggesting that the KGB believed he was an agent. Mr Foot immediately fired off writs to the Sunday Times and News of the World, which printed a follow-up story, branding the allegations "a McCarthyite smear".
The News of the World settled within hours of the writ arriving, paying Mr Foot pounds 35,000. Mr Witherow, however, chose to fight on and at one point staked his job on victory in court.
Fred Halliday, a Professor at the London School of Economics, also named by the Sunday Times, may now proceed with legal action. Mr Foot said some of the damages would go to Tribune. He added he and his legal team would celebrate at the Gay Hussar, the Soho restaurant in which alleged Agent Boot met his KGB contacts."
 
Dave must be feeling chuffed with himself this morning - he really must.
He has put Alex Salmond and the whole topic of Scottish Independence to the sword in no uncertain terms.
He has boosted his standing in his party, in this country and across the world.
He has Milliband on the run and UKIP scrambling for cover.
Nice work Dave. Nice work indeed.
 
TGR said:
Dave must be feeling chuffed with himself this morning - he really must.
He has put Alex Salmond and the whole topic of Scottish Independence to the sword in no uncertain terms.
He has boosted his standing in his party, in this country and across the world.
He has Milliband on the run and UKIP scrambling for cover.
Nice work Dave. Nice work indeed.
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TGR said:
Dave must be feeling chuffed with himself this morning - he really must.
He has helped create deep divisions which will last for a generation or more.
He has created a devolution frenzy he cannot control.
He has given ammunition to the right wing elements in his party and in the wider country.
Nice work Dave. Nice work indeed.

Edited for accuracy.
 
chabal said:
TGR said:
Dave must be feeling chuffed with himself this morning - he really must.
He has helped create deep divisions which will last for a generation or more.
He has created a devolution frenzy he cannot control.
He has given ammunition to the right wing elements in his party and in the wider country.
Nice work Dave. Nice work indeed.

Edited for accuracy.


I think TGR woukd be quite happy with your edit anyway mate :)
 
BigJimLittleJim said:
chabal said:
TGR said:
Dave must be feeling chuffed with himself this morning - he really must.
He has helped create deep divisions which will last for a generation or more.
He has created a devolution frenzy he cannot control.
He has given ammunition to the right wing elements in his party and in the wider country.
Nice work Dave. Nice work indeed.

Edited for accuracy.


I think TGR woukd be quite happy with your edit anyway mate :)

I did wonder why he hadn't responded.
 
Gordon Brown did well
But at the end of the day Cameron took the risk on this referendum .
This could have back fired on Cameron .
But he took the risk and got his reward .
 
baildon blue said:
Gordon Brown did well
But at the end of the day Cameron took the risk on this referendum .
This could have back fired on Cameron .
But he took the risk and got his reward .

And the nasty piece of work that is Alex Salmond is no more along with the topic of Scottish Independence.
Like him or not Dave played a blinder with this one.
All credit to him.
 
TGR said:
baildon blue said:
Gordon Brown did well
But at the end of the day Cameron took the risk on this referendum .
This could have back fired on Cameron .
But he took the risk and got his reward .

And the nasty piece of work that is Alex Salmond is no more along with the topic of Scottish Independence.
Like him or not Dave played a blinder with this one.
All credit to him.



I give the smarmy clown absolutely no credit for the No vote - he rode on the backs of Labour on this one, and his job was to lead by example- Gordon Brown showed him how it's done in one speech - this will not have gone unnoticed by the electorate and his own party - he is a dead man walking when the tories lose the next election, they won't forget how close he took us to economic meltdown whilst just out of recession.

He played like a blind man more like it.
 
Cameron has shown his true colours today....ripping up the schedule that Gordon Brown drew up for meetings and agreement on 'Devo Max'

step one should have been a meeting on the 27th September now cancelled and the words that discussion may begin in 2015


Weasel , liar and cheat...........no wonder they've been rioting in Glasgow
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Cameron has shown his true colours today....ripping up the schedule that Gordon Brown drew up for meetings and agreement on 'Devo Max'

step one should have been a meeting on the 27th September now cancelled and the words that discussion may begin in 2015


Weasel , liar and cheat...........no wonder they've been rioting in Glasgow


If you were asked for the most divisive, cowardly, shitbag thing a politician could do this year to piss off the Scottish people (traitors apparently), this would probably be top of the list.

Well played Dave, what a blinder, punishing the Yes voters two days after the election "he won".
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Cameron has shown his true colours today....ripping up the schedule that Gordon Brown drew up for meetings and agreement on 'Devo Max'

step one should have been a meeting on the 27th September now cancelled and the words that discussion may begin in 2015


Weasel , liar and cheat...........no wonder they've been rioting in Glasgow

I think you may be missing the point here, he (and the government) need to answer the West Lothian question first, and also propose a new more devolved system of power for England, when that is sorted out Scotland will get it's extra powers
 
Ducado said:
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Cameron has shown his true colours today....ripping up the schedule that Gordon Brown drew up for meetings and agreement on 'Devo Max'

step one should have been a meeting on the 27th September now cancelled and the words that discussion may begin in 2015


Weasel , liar and cheat...........no wonder they've been rioting in Glasgow

I think you may be missing the point here, he (and the government) need to answer the West Lothian question first, and also propose a new more devolved system of power for England, when that is sorted out Scotland will get it's extra powers



Errrrrr .......at no point in Gordon Browns speech(es) or any subsequent speech from any other MP was there a requirement for the 'West Lothian Question' to be resolved first. Brown made a Vow its now Cameron and his cronies who are doing the wriggling on this

Disgraceful....
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Ducado said:
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Cameron has shown his true colours today....ripping up the schedule that Gordon Brown drew up for meetings and agreement on 'Devo Max'

step one should have been a meeting on the 27th September now cancelled and the words that discussion may begin in 2015


Weasel , liar and cheat...........no wonder they've been rioting in Glasgow

I think you may be missing the point here, he (and the government) need to answer the West Lothian question first, and also propose a new more devolved system of power for England, when that is sorted out Scotland will get it's extra powers



Errrrrr .......at no point in Gordon Browns speech(es) or any subsequent speech from any other MP was there a requirement for the 'West Lothian Question' to be resolved first. Brown made a Vow its now Cameron and his cronies who are doing the wriggling on this

Disgraceful....

The point still remains, we can not give Scotland the extra powers until the problem of basic democracy in England is sorted out Brown was rash in making the promises
 
BigJimLittleJim said:
TGR said:
baildon blue said:
Gordon Brown did well
But at the end of the day Cameron took the risk on this referendum .
This could have back fired on Cameron .
But he took the risk and got his reward .

And the nasty piece of work that is Alex Salmond is no more along with the topic of Scottish Independence.
Like him or not Dave played a blinder with this one.
All credit to him.



I give the smarmy clown absolutely no credit for the No vote - he rode on the backs of Labour on this one, and his job was to lead by example- Gordon Brown showed him how it's done in one speech - this will not have gone unnoticed by the electorate and his own party - he is a dead man walking when the tories lose the next election, they won't forget how close he took us to economic meltdown whilst just out of recession.

He played like a blind man more like it.
Brown hard to give the speech. If Cameron had said the same no fucker in Scotland would listen - he's a Conservative, and he's more unpopular up there than a fat free diet.
 
Ducado said:
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Ducado said:
I think you may be missing the point here, he (and the government) need to answer the West Lothian question first, and also propose a new more devolved system of power for England, when that is sorted out Scotland will get it's extra powers



Errrrrr .......at no point in Gordon Browns speech(es) or any subsequent speech from any other MP was there a requirement for the 'West Lothian Question' to be resolved first. Brown made a Vow its now Cameron and his cronies who are doing the wriggling on this

Disgraceful....

The point still remains, we can not give Scotland the extra powers until the problem of basic democracy in England is sorted out Brown was rash in making the promises


That promise (which now turns out to be an out and out lie) was signed off by all three parties ...and influenced the vote to the extent that it moved from 51% yes to only 45%......if the West Lothian Question needed to be resolved first then it should have been made clear in the speech, and the timetable adjusted accordingly.

Its deceit ......nothing more nothing less
 

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